Allyson, I'm not saying that's the reason Drive (for example) failed to catch a big audience. I've personally seen and heard people in real life(tm) saying 'Oh, I'm not going to watch xxx on E4 as it'll just get cancelled'. It's not a big factor, but if every FOX show fails this year (which they basically will) it's gotta be a thing for some viewers.
Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.
'Underneath'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 5:28:55 am PDT #5834 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Allyson - Apr 19, 2007 5:29:52 am PDT #5835 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Kristen wrote 106, so I'm pleading with the universe that they air them all.
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 5:34:30 am PDT #5836 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I'm still pleading with the universe they get go ahead for 1 or 2 more to wrap things up. Wah!
Although if they don't, Tim should totally write a Drive movie for Paramount with a catchy tag.
§ ita § - Apr 19, 2007 5:38:45 am PDT #5837 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it's gotta be a thing for some viewers
Drive is a thing for some viewers, but if it doesn't materially affect the bottom line, some viewers don't count.
Didn't they predict the death of the serial drama a few years ago? Maybe Fox doesn't have the resources to keep it alive. They'll keep making money nonetheless.
Allyson - Apr 19, 2007 5:43:31 am PDT #5838 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I don't think you can compare the handful of people you know in the UK to the entire American viewing public. If that were the case, Fox would be advertising shows with, "This time, we're gonna show you ALL 22 EPISODES!"
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 5:49:14 am PDT #5839 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I'm not comparing to that scale -- I'm just giving my experience. You can go online and see a great many similar comments.
Ailleann - Apr 19, 2007 5:50:30 am PDT #5840 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
After Firefly's demise, I swore off Fox. I think that lasted about a year or so, and then I found House, and then Bones, both of which are holding strong. I am weak.
Whenever they talk about Neilsen ratings, I always wonder how they determine who gets to be in that club. I've never known anyone who was a Neilsen viewer. I suspect that they're not accurately representing some viewers (big shock, yeah, I know).
Of course, I get no opinion I guess, because I don't watch commercials at all.
Allyson - Apr 19, 2007 5:50:51 am PDT #5841 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Sure. But what I'm saying is, that doesn't matter a jot.
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 5:53:17 am PDT #5842 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Based on what, Allyson? Some people don't bother watching shows because they know they will get cancelled. That effects net viewing figures to some extent.
Jon B. - Apr 19, 2007 5:57:26 am PDT #5843 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Some people don't bother watching shows because they know they will get cancelled. That effects net viewing figures to some extent.
Just because you've seen some comments online, and you've spoken to a few people, doesn't mean that the effect will be significant enough to be even a blip on Fox's ratings.
I don't think the vast majority of Americans identify shows with particular networks except for the part where they need to know where to click to.