And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Feb 21, 2007 9:15:20 am PST #4259 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I have to admit, I barely noticed them either.


Allyson - Feb 21, 2007 9:25:50 am PST #4260 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

All that gorram and reckon and crap made me want to tear my own head off. Accents didn't bother me.


Jessica - Feb 21, 2007 9:30:12 am PST #4261 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

All that gorram and reckon and crap made me want to tear my own head off. Accents didn't bother me.

Same here.

That said, I don't think the roles NF has played have anything to do with my dislike of him as an actor -- there's just something about him I don't enjoy watching.


Vortex - Feb 21, 2007 9:31:29 am PST #4262 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

All that gorram and reckon and crap made me want to tear my own head off. Accents didn't bother me.

Maybe no so much accents as speech cadence.


DavidS - Feb 21, 2007 9:32:17 am PST #4263 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I came to really like the western language over the course of the show, never minded the Chinese (and liked it when Wash was spitting it out angrily) and loved Nathan as Mal.

For me, the western talk was just as stylized as the Buffy Val-speak slanginess and wordplay. It was its own little hermetically sealed word world, but I liked that.


Kevin - Feb 21, 2007 9:46:00 am PST #4264 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Buffy speak often wasn't repeated episode to episode, though, whereas Firefly vocab was. The Firefly thing was obviously a deliberate play on language, to try to invent something progressive and believable, and in many ways I thought it worked -- it annoys me that in nearly all television and movie science fiction, the galaxy 132904290 billion years in the future is shown speaking current generic American.

The fact a lot of Firefly fan fic authors feel the need to use the word gorramn every 4 words, though, does grate.


§ ita § - Feb 21, 2007 9:48:05 am PST #4265 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Buffy speak often wasn't repeated episode to episode

The exact words, no. But the grammar and rhythms were very consistent throughout the series. My sister found it as offputting as the language in Firefly.


aurelia - Feb 21, 2007 9:59:52 am PST #4266 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Maybe no so much accents as speech cadence.

This. It's all about the speech pattern and how the words fit together.


Laga - Feb 21, 2007 10:18:39 am PST #4267 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I can't stand Gilmore Girls because of the speech pattern.


Zenkitty - Feb 21, 2007 10:38:27 am PST #4268 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I can't stand Gilmore Girls because of the speech pattern.

That's funny, because I can't either, and yet I loved the speech patterns on Firefly and Buffy.