Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 01, 2007 10:34:11 am PST #3843 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

One thing I've been wanting to ask since I've managed to not catch any of the promo(s) - pouts - but have been hesitant to, since the comments about being meh about the promo(s), and the response that the promo(s) represented the show well, was whether the promo(s) represented the style of the show well, the content of the show well, or both.

Because promos can be true to a show in content while being utterly misleading in style and vice versa.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:35:29 am PST #3844 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think any personal attacks would be Stompy-worthy to the extent that any attack on a poster here would be.

Yeah, I'm with Dana on that. Criticism is all well and good, but if anyone went Kitten on them, well, it should be like that scene in Office Space where they beat the piss out of the fax machine.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 10:36:16 am PST #3845 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

was whether the promo(s) represented the style of the show well, the content of the show well, or both

If the promos did a bad job of representing the style of the show, then it's a black mark against the people that wrote said promos, who are the same writers who are writing the show.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 01, 2007 10:37:21 am PST #3846 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The question is whether we're distinguishing between "this sucks!" and "you suck!" when the creators are in the house.

There's also differentiating "this isn't working for me" or "this could be better" and "this sucks" (or "you suck") as well. Not for Stompy purposes, but for stomping purposes.


bon bon - Feb 01, 2007 10:37:53 am PST #3847 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I've seen plenty of trailers/promos, especially over the past year on YouTube, that completely misrepresent what a film is like or about. I don't think that reflects on the writer.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 10:38:30 am PST #3848 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've seen plenty of trailers/promos, especially over the past year on YouTube, that completely misrepresent what a film is like or about. I don't think that reflects on the writer.

The writer of the film, or the writer of the promo?


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2007 10:39:17 am PST #3849 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I wouldn't worry too much about it, I think we'll all be awesome. New people may come in, dive headfirst into the guac, and then we'll gently and firmly 'splain how not to trip on the rug on the way to the bowl.


bon bon - Feb 01, 2007 10:39:59 am PST #3850 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The writer of the film, or the writer of the promo?

The film.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:43:21 am PST #3851 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Frank, the best way I can describe it is that there are threads of Tim's work all through it. I think that Melanie Linski's storyline has this sort of Kaylee-innocence/Wonderfalls adorableness about it.

There's a non-linear Out of Gas element to the series, as well.

And then there are the sort of drama desperate redemption threads running through all of them, with some of the darkness of Angel-smothering-Wesley-with-a-pillow betrayals and an army of Virgil Websters manipulating the teams.

So it seems like this is a culmination of Minearesque elements.

I think that's why Kristen fits so well, other than the raw talent, she has a historical understanding of the years of work that are going into it.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 10:45:59 am PST #3852 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The film.

In this instance, I'm led to understand they're one and the same.