Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.

'Underneath'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2007 10:15:13 am PST #3163 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, technically Tim's due a hit. Something gotta stick at some point. That's the logic I'm using.

My logic is that the show seems to have more elements of a mainstream hit and fewer off-putting quirky differences. Everyone likes cars, and conspiracies are way cool (although Vanished and Kidnapped didn't fare well...), and it's action-packed and whatnot. I just feel like it has the best chance of connecting with a larger audience out of all of Tim's shows.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 12, 2007 10:16:55 am PST #3164 of 10001
What is even happening?

Plus, it's already a hit!


Tamara - Jan 12, 2007 10:19:18 am PST #3165 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

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The futon critic is projecting that TV's Hit Drive will premiere at 8pm on April 2nd as the lead in to 24. I don't have a clue where they get their info, but I don't recall ever hearing complaints about their accuracy.

It's the perfect spot IMHO.


Kevin - Jan 12, 2007 10:20:01 am PST #3166 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I agree. That's also part of my logic. I also think Drive has a lot going for it in terms of publicity - it looks great, and there's plenty of action stuff to lace trailers with. And mystery. It would be possible to set up some really great viral marketing websites for Drive about The Race and such, very similar to what ABC does with Lost. See also: Heroes. I have toyed with this idea myself, but I don't want to step on the networks toes -- I'm really hoping they think of that. Toy with the online audience -- recent years has shown online word of mouth does work when engaged properly.

That said, I thought The Inside was going to do better than it did, because I figure crime procedurals often fair well. I was wrong.


DavidS - Jan 12, 2007 10:22:14 am PST #3167 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My logic is that the show seems to have more elements of a mainstream hit and fewer off-putting quirky differences.

I thought that was the idea on The Inside?


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2007 10:23:28 am PST #3168 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

fewer off-putting quirky differences.

I thought that was the idea on The Inside?

I'm not sure quirky is the right word for Locke, but offputting to your standard procedural crowd? I can buy it.


Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2007 10:26:29 am PST #3169 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The futon critic is projecting that TV's Hit Drive will premiere at 8pm on April 2nd as the lead in to 24. I don't have a clue where they get their info, but I don't recall ever hearing complaints about their accuracy.

My first thought was, "Hey, that's against Prison Break !" Then I remembered that PB was on Fox, which means: perfect!!

offputting to your standard procedural crowd? I can buy it.

This. It was so deliberately different, whereas Drive is deliberately awesome.


Kevin - Jan 12, 2007 10:26:35 am PST #3170 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I know a few people outside of fandom circles who have seen The Inside in real life on ITV4, and they said The Inside was too dark for them.

ETA: Although that said, there's so many popular crime shows where the victims are raped every single week, I'm not sure the theory holds up.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2007 10:29:30 am PST #3171 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there's so many popular crime shows where the victims are raped every single week, I'm not sure the theory holds up

L&O SVU or CSI victims rarely evoke an emotional response from me--I've lost touch with whether or not they're supposed to. Despite the weekly murder and rape, I couldn't call them dark. Gross sometimes, but not dark.


Tamara - Jan 12, 2007 10:32:54 am PST #3172 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

My first thought was, "Hey, that's against Prison Break !" Then I remembered that PB was on Fox, which means: perfect!!

Yeah, PB's season finale is March 19th, and 24 is supposed to be two hours on March 26th. Then the timeslot is open for TV's Hit Drive on April 2nd.