Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Jun 01, 2006 11:18:05 am PDT #9990 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

Sparky -- there was a lot more going on than just that. There was the test everyone failed, the fact she was constantly late to class, often leaving us locked out of the classroom and standing around. She tried to mark people absent because they got up out of their seat during class -- for any reason, such as throwing something in the trash or sharpening a pencil.

With the middle schoolers it was worse -- one of girl somehow hurt herself (I think she was accidentally stabbed by a pencil) and bleeding and the teacher wouldn't give the student permission to go to the nurse.

Plus she was a replacement teacher brought in during the middle of the year, the class I took was a one semseter class. We didn't have a teacher for the first few weeks and then she was fired before the end of the school year.


Sparky1 - Jun 01, 2006 11:19:09 am PDT #9991 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

but if your wrong belief endangers your students, is that permissible?

How was she endangering the students? If she only expressed her beliefs, then I'm still in the free speech zone of things, and you fight what you believe are wrong ideas with the expression of your right ideas.

eta: For all the other reasons you list, askye, I'm glad she was let go.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2006 11:21:18 am PDT #9992 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yikes, it sounds like Carrie White's mom as a health teacher.


libkitty - Jun 01, 2006 11:22:05 am PDT #9993 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

As Spidra and juliana mentioned, you get great veggies in Alaska. I should have specified southeast Alaska, where it is lush and green but we get too much rain and not enough sun for most traditional garden veggies.

eta: I didn't mean this to be quite out of nowhere. It's a clarification of a post I made last night.


Tom Scola - Jun 01, 2006 11:22:30 am PDT #9994 of 10002
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Remember when killing threads used to be exciting?


Ailleann - Jun 01, 2006 11:23:22 am PDT #9995 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

runs around naked

Wait, that's frightening, not exciting....


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2006 11:23:44 am PDT #9996 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Haiku is so passe'.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 01, 2006 11:24:12 am PDT #9997 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Thread killing is the new ennui.


Steph L. - Jun 01, 2006 11:24:49 am PDT #9998 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

If she only expressed her beliefs, then I'm still in the free speech zone of things, and you fight what you believe are wrong ideas with the expression of your right ideas.

Are middle-schoolers considered capable of the same type of reasoning that adults are?

That's a serious question.

I would never expect a 10- to 13-year-old to have reasoned out her beliefs on human rights to the same degree that an adult has. If, in fact, the child -- and that's what they are: children -- has reasoned out her beliefs on human rights AT ALL. Some 10-year-olds are still fucking up math; I can't imagine how they could rationally argue for the rights of women to walk down a street unassaulted.


Vortex - Jun 01, 2006 11:24:55 am PDT #9999 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

How was she endangering the students? If she only expressed her beliefs, then I'm still in the free speech zone of things, and you fight what you believe are wrong ideas with the expression of your right ideas.

I honestly think that teaching girls that anyone who gets raped was "asking for it" endangers students. It prevents girls from reporting rape, thus risking health and mental health issues, not to mention leaving a rapist out there to hurt other girls. It also gives boys an "out", by allowing them to justify their actions when they rape a girl.

But then, I suppose that you could argue that my telling girls to use protection endangers their mortal soul, so I guess you have a point. But, it's still wrong of her.