You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - May 26, 2006 11:13:49 am PDT #9144 of 10002
Because books.

In semi-topical news, the job my DH just accepted is with the Oneida Indian Nation. (Upstate New York, for those playing along at home.)


aurelia - May 26, 2006 11:15:55 am PDT #9145 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Did I mention yet another bigwig in the IT group resigned this week?

Hey, go get his monitor!


Vortex - May 26, 2006 11:22:53 am PDT #9146 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is that the reason WHY it has not been changed?

ah, yes! thank you Cindy! I don't know if it's an homage so much that a name change would confuse people, I think.


Aims - May 26, 2006 11:24:46 am PDT #9147 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Got it.


tommyrot - May 26, 2006 11:41:32 am PDT #9148 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wonkette photo essay on the Rayburn House Office Building situation: [link]

This caption cracked me up:

“This guy’s name is John Turley, apparently he was one of the first let out of the building, other than that, he doesn’t know shit.”

eta:

So what caused this whole ruckus? According to CNN, the “suspected sounds of gunshots heard in a House office building were made by a mechanic using a pneumatic hammer on an elevator.”


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 11:44:59 am PDT #9149 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the problem is that all the words are fraught with trying to group all Native North Americans in one group, when they identify with their own specific communities.

I'd think since I can be black and Jamaican and West Indian that it's not a huge deal to be identified with different terms--some of which encompass each others, and some that just overlap.


Typo Boy - May 26, 2006 11:50:12 am PDT #9150 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I use the term "American Indian", because locally any other term - Native American, First Ones, First Nations - gets an angry response from American Indians. That does not apply to Canadians of course.

And prior to the invasion of course that ethnicity did not exist. But one of the ways an ethnicity is formed is shared oppression; so all the various nations of this part of the continent did end up with a pretty horrible shared experience; they were maltreated as one people, and in response developed a shared identity.


tommyrot - May 26, 2006 11:51:19 am PDT #9151 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Women Accused Of Stealing Yarn

“She hasn’t made a decision on whether she wants to press charges against these subjects or not,” says Lt. Will Merrill with the Woodstock Police.

Ms. Light is perhaps indecisive, because the husband of one of the accused thieves invited her to his home to recover her yarn.

“We came back with 12 great big, huge garbage bags full of yarn,” says Light.

“We thought, maybe, you know, a couple of thousand, but we totaled it up and Debi and I both just went white,” says shop manager Caryn Southwick.

Shocked because the total was almost $13,000!


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 11:57:34 am PDT #9152 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And prior to the invasion of course that ethnicity did not exist.

No? There was no concept of "those of us on this land"? I'm not saying it was a strong concept that implied lots of shared values, but you don't need an invasion to spark the concept of "us."


tommyrot - May 26, 2006 12:01:35 pm PDT #9153 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

No? There was no concept of "those of us on this land"?

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!