Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


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DebetEsse - May 26, 2006 9:59:05 am PDT #9121 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oh. I didn't realize you were looking for a Canadian term. I'm kinda flighty today. Do you know what the term in Canadian/British documentation was? Not that that would be the way to go, but it would be an option, at least.


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 10:01:27 am PDT #9122 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't realize you were looking for a Canadian term

No, in Canada "First Peoples" gets the message across just fine. But when you're in the US, talking about a Cree from Montreal, what are you gonna say to the many people who've never used "First Nation/Peoples"?


Fred Pete - May 26, 2006 10:06:36 am PDT #9123 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'd be tempted to say "First Peoples" just to try to get the term established.


Calli - May 26, 2006 10:07:37 am PDT #9124 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'd get "First Peoples," and I haven't been to Canada since I was 14.


bon bon - May 26, 2006 10:08:02 am PDT #9125 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Canadian Indian and/or Cree from Montreal.


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 10:09:37 am PDT #9126 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Canadian Indian and/or Cree from Montreal.

Depends on what you're saying, though. I used Cree as a specific example so I could avoid using the more general term for which I'm searching.

I'd get "First Peoples," and I haven't been to Canada since I was 14.

That's cool. I've been greeted with blankness both here and in Michigan. Enough that I ended up using "Canadian Native American" quite like an idiot.


-t - May 26, 2006 10:10:15 am PDT #9127 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I haven't heard "First Peoples" before, but I like it. And this one explanation is all I'll need to be able to get any future references.

That said, I thought "Native American" was supposed to refer to the American continents (both of them), so would be a reasonable synonym.


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 10:12:28 am PDT #9128 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought "Native American" was supposed to refer to the American continents (both of them), so would be a reasonable synonym.

So far, that "American" has been a touchy subject for many of my Canadian friends. Because it's been so tightly associate to the US, that they furrow their brows when it's applied to Canada except in the term "North American."


-t - May 26, 2006 10:15:11 am PDT #9129 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I can see that. I can't think of an ideal solution that is not wordy and cumbersome or else relies on the listener being informed.

That grammars a mess. Sorry.


Megan E. - May 26, 2006 10:15:17 am PDT #9130 of 10002

I was trying to work out what to call a "Canadian Indian" over here. In Montreal, it was pretty simple: First Peoples. But no one here gets that.

Canadian Indian is not a term I've ever heard before. It's either "First Nations" or "Aboriginal" (our government in the province has an Office of Aboriginal Affairs). "First People" implies that they were the first people here, which they were.

The federal department is still called "Indian Affairs" and the term "Status Indian" is still relevant in Canada since these are used to encompass Treaties under the "Indian Act."