Fred: The size and depth of the wound indicate a female vampire. Harmony: Or gay! Fred: Um…it doesn't really work like that.

'Harm's Way'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - May 26, 2006 8:29:01 am PDT #9096 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well, that's settled then:

It was the egg.

Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.

Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.

Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear.

The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said.

"Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg," he added. "So, I would conclude that the egg came first."


§ ita § - May 26, 2006 8:31:05 am PDT #9097 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't believe they said pecking order.


Nutty - May 26, 2006 8:32:57 am PDT #9098 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Um, doesn't the egg come before the chicken because snakes and other reptiles lay eggs? And chickens are like the freak inbred grandchildren of reptiles.

Problem solved!


Topic!Cindy - May 26, 2006 8:33:15 am PDT #9099 of 10002
What is even happening?

Of course the egg would have gotten its DNA from its parents...


Jessica - May 26, 2006 8:34:56 am PDT #9100 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Of course the egg would have gotten its DNA from its parents...

Yes, but the first chicken's parents were, by definition, not chickens.


Theodosia - May 26, 2006 8:39:32 am PDT #9101 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Actually, there is very good reason to believe that birds (including the noble chicken) are descended from dinosaurs, not reptiles. Otherwise, as you said.


Nutty - May 26, 2006 8:52:11 am PDT #9102 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

(Dinosaurs aren't just really really big reptiles??)

This is why I am not a phylogenist. It looks like a roaring, upright, gigantic chameleon, it walks like a roaring, upright, gigantic chameleon, by gum it probably is one.


sarameg - May 26, 2006 8:55:40 am PDT #9103 of 10002

I hope theyfucking do something about my monitor soon. It's been fairly stable, but now and then, just blurs a smidge. So I barely notice until I look up and am crosseyed.

I was so optimistic last friday....


dcp - May 26, 2006 9:09:04 am PDT #9104 of 10002
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Eyestrain like that is a health issue that must not be ignored. Time to report it to your boss as well as your tech support. Don't work with that monitor anymore.


Frankenbuddha - May 26, 2006 9:11:44 am PDT #9105 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Of course the egg would have gotten its DNA from its parents...

Yes, but the first chicken's parents were, by definition, not chickens.

"Would it be a chicken egg?" is my question.