I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


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Jesse - May 24, 2006 7:00:35 am PDT #8810 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, I thought I paid a lot at the spa yesterday, but I was willing to go with it, until I just looked at the detailed receipt, and they totally overcharged me!! I call bullshit. I did, in fact, call them, and the lady said she'll call back.


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 7:03:08 am PDT #8811 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

how much force are you allowed to use to defend yourself? If someone clearly is trying to kill you, obviously you can do whatever is necessary to defend yourself, including killing them back. But what if, say, someone "just" wants to beat you up, and in the process of defending yourself you happen to pick up a shard of glass and stab them in the neck and they die? I mean (for the sake of this example) you took action that you knew might kill the other person..

How do you know they just want to beat you up, though? If someone comes at me violently, I'd hope that I'd be allowed to do at least the minimum to stop them coming at me violently. Of course, there's an instructor up on charges for doing just that. And I'm assuming that I'm allowed to defend myself from rape as enthusiastically as from being beaten up or killed.

The big line we're told about is about parity. If they intend to kill you and you take their gun from them and shoot and kill them...you might be on shaky ground, having shot an unarmed man. Of course, if he was running away from you at that point, you are in the hot water.

Basically, if I can honestly say "Your honour, I was in fear for my life" as the justification for my actions, I hope to be okay. But that's a hope.

It's a severity issue.

The instructor punched and kicked a guy and left him with one eye swollen shut. He's on misdemeanour battery.

I am now having a flashback to the guy who came up to me in a bar, rushed my legs, and tried to pick me up. WTFF? Needless to say, we both fell over.

Cool! We just taught that (and how to defend against it) yesterday, all stemming from the warmup I told a junior instructor to give.


Megan E. - May 24, 2006 7:07:56 am PDT #8812 of 10002

When I saw those cupcakes I thought of the Buffy, Season 6 premiere.


sumi - May 24, 2006 7:09:12 am PDT #8813 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Oh yes!


Jesse - May 24, 2006 7:10:38 am PDT #8814 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We just taught that (and how to defend against it) yesterday, all stemming from the warmup I told a junior instructor to give.

I basically just fell to the ground. Was that krav-approved?


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 7:15:16 am PDT #8815 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I basically just fell to the ground. Was that krav-approved?

That's pretty much a worst-case scenario, because once you're on the ground he has even more of an advantage, unless you spun it so he was on the bottom.

If someone comes for your legs and they're bent at the waist (so their torso is approaching horizontal) it's pretty easy to stop them by just pressing down on their shoulders, and making them fold. Feel free to knee them in the face before, during, or after. If they shoot in on you "properly" with their torso upright, the safest thing to do is to send your feet and hips out behind you as far as you can and brace against their shoulder(s) with your forearm. If they keep coming in (which they probably will) don't stay in their line of motion--spin off to the side and kick 'em as they go past.

All of this assumes room to move, and time to see it coming. But if you aim for best case, you're doing a good job.


Jesse - May 24, 2006 7:17:28 am PDT #8816 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I will remember that for next time.


bon bon - May 24, 2006 7:18:37 am PDT #8817 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

So, I thought I paid a lot at the spa yesterday, but I was willing to go with it, until I just looked at the detailed receipt, and they totally overcharged me!! I call bullshit. I did, in fact, call them, and the lady said she'll call back.

What spa did you go to, if you don't mind saying? I had a facial this weekend while I was visiting my parents and now I want MORE.


Jesse - May 24, 2006 7:22:24 am PDT #8818 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Metamorphosis on 56th between Lex and Park. I thought I really liked it, until I noticed the extra $45 on my receipt. The masseuse was genius.


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 7:26:36 am PDT #8819 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What did you have done again, Jesse? Body wrap and massage?

I had a salt scrub the last time I visited SF for any length of time, and I loved it to pieces. It feels strangely indulgent to do that at home, although I think lengthy massages are just fine.