You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 2:34:37 pm PDT #8223 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's my attention span. Rob Thomas is willing to set things up and not knock them over for months (although he's got a pretty good batting average for actually knocking them over). I just do not have that level of attention to invest in any show, so what's a big payoff for the ardent fans is "Oh, that. I think I read fan conjecture on it one time." for me.

24, on the other hand is wham bam with the set them up, knock them down cycle. It's an adrenaline game, and I enjoy that, although I'd never call it quality. But I rarely even have time to think meta until the hour's over. And by then I don't care so much.

Prison Break does a decent adventure serial job of the weekly cliffhanger plus odd twisty bits from three eps ago.

I miss Alias having that pacing. Oh, man, for pretty and explosions and "Ooh! Cool!" it was something.

For slower TV...nothing's gotten me much since Wonderfalls or Firefly, I don't think. But my brain's swiss cheese. How else can I explain forgetting that Lorne was both a) green and b) a regular in a TV series I watched?

(ita, avert your eyes)

That's not enough notice! Uh, not that I wouldn't have highlighted anyway if you'd spoilerfonted it.


JenP - May 19, 2006 2:38:47 pm PDT #8224 of 10002

Yeah, I was debating just putting it out there in hopes that you'd skim right on by, but what with it being in the middle of a TV shows discussion, I thought that was kind of unfair. It's so hard navigating the Natter stream sometimes. Still... tasty!


Allyson - May 19, 2006 2:39:55 pm PDT #8225 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

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§ ita § - May 19, 2006 2:41:27 pm PDT #8226 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why egg salad strikes me as the nastiest of eggy things...I think it's the subterfuge. Crême brulée is similarly tricksy, but it's prettier. The whole "I'm a salad! Well, not salad salad, but more like tuna salad. You like tuna, don't you? Mmm! Oh, but just imagine the tuna replaced with EGG!" And then I wake up screaming.

eta: eggs in their shells are pretty. They're what you use to make cakes and cookies and pancakes. It's easy to disbelieve in the boiling of them then.


JenP - May 19, 2006 2:47:01 pm PDT #8227 of 10002

I thought creme brulee (too lazy for the characters) was the same consistency as flan for the longest time. I don't like flan. Then a friend cleared it all up for me and I actually tried creme brulee. Oh, so good. It was an epiphany.


Calli - May 19, 2006 2:48:24 pm PDT #8228 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I enjoyed Veronica Mars, although I didn't really care about the big arc thing until the last couple of episodes. I'm mostly there for the dialog and the secondary storylines.

I am enjoying Dr. Who. Lots and lots. I get together with some folks and we make a big social thing of it.

Smonster and Amyth got me hooked on BSG. <shakes tiny fist> But they also lent me the DVDs to get me up to speed, so it's all good. And the big October wait doesn't weigh on me as much since I'm just now up to the Pegasus episodes.

And speaking of Dr. Who, I need to scoot to make the local Whoista gathering.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 2:49:21 pm PDT #8229 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am suspicious of flan, because it is most often eggy. But still pretty.

I once had a custard desert, egg free, that looked just like crême brulée--the "brulée" top was actually kiwifruit jelly. It was delicious.


JenP - May 19, 2006 2:50:15 pm PDT #8230 of 10002

Oh, yeah. Love Dr. Who, but I think of it more as a computer show than a TV show. And the same thing with Spooks. Love.

ETA: Flan is watery/custardy, which I do not like. The kiwi jelly brulee thing sounds yum.


Topic!Cindy - May 19, 2006 2:51:56 pm PDT #8231 of 10002
What is even happening?

I enjoyed Veronica Mars, although I didn't really care about the big arc thing until the last couple of episodes. I'm mostly there for the dialog and the secondary storylines.

I suspect this year, we didn't need to, as much. That's one of the things I'll be interested in finding out, once I rewatch it in a row. It seems like there were an awful lot of unimportant episodes in the middle--sort of the same pacing problems BtVS had in its last few years, but it was so often pre-empted, I can't decide without a good rewatch.

Next year, he's going to have three blocks of mysteries, rather than one big one. I think I might like that, better.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 3:07:12 pm PDT #8232 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I suspect this year, we didn't need to, as much.

But the big reveal touched on what felt like every episode. I'm not a big clue-gluer, so I just went "Really? That was supported by all the text?" and waited for the next good character moment.