Book: I am a Shepherd. Folks like a man of God. Mal: No, they don't. Men of God make everyone feel guilty and judged.

'Safe'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - May 16, 2006 7:45:51 am PDT #7589 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

He made a lot of mistakes (but) a mistake is not a crime.

OMG A mistake is TOTALLY a crime if it's an illegal mistake! Like, accidently running someone down in your car is a mistake but you are still liable for it. Your intent may affect the sentence you get but it doesn't relieve you of the responsibility for having committed the illegal act! Right?


Jessica - May 16, 2006 7:47:39 am PDT #7590 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Stature?" Petrocelli asked incredulously. "He's antisocial! He loved building the business. He didn't like running the business and he wasn't very good at it. He made a lot of mistakes (but) a mistake is not a crime."

If you'd have been there / If you'd have seen it / how could you tell him that he was wrong?


Dana - May 16, 2006 7:49:21 am PDT #7591 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Jessica, I blame you SO MUCH for the fact that I'm now mentally casting "Chicago" with Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling.


erikaj - May 16, 2006 7:56:30 am PDT #7592 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

ew.


Kathy A - May 16, 2006 7:58:53 am PDT #7593 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Jessica, I blame you SO MUCH for the fact that I'm now mentally casting "Chicago" with Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling.

Ewww! And the worst part is that I've mentally cast Jeff's brother Tom (probably the most respected TV meteorologist in the US and a real teddy-bear of a guy) as Velma Kelly's sister.


Typo Boy - May 16, 2006 8:22:23 am PDT #7594 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OMG A mistake is TOTALLY a crime if it's an illegal mistake! Like, accidently running someone down in your car is a mistake but you are still liable for it. Your intent may affect the sentence you get but it doesn't relieve you of the responsibility for having committed the illegal act! Right?

I'm not a lawyer but I occassionally enjoy playing one on the Internet. I think there still has to be an element of fault - recklessness or carelessness, negligence something. If you are driving over the speed limit, drunk, haven't maintained your car adequately, or simply are not excercising reasonable care. On the other hand if you are driving legally at the speed limit, watching what you are doing, and and a pedestrian darts out from between two parked cars, so that there is no way you can seeTom Cruise in time to stop...

Ummm my mind wanders. Your information from real lawyers may vary.


Tom Scola - May 16, 2006 8:25:54 am PDT #7595 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Apparently, the judge's instructions to the jury included a definintion of the term "willful ignorance".


Matt the Bruins fan - May 16, 2006 8:30:33 am PDT #7596 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Crap, apparently I discovered a new way to sleep wrong last night. I thought I just had some routine neck stiffness/soreness, but when brushing my teeth a while ago I found out I was leaning my head WAY to the left and attempting to counter that left me gasping. It's not possible to give yourself whiplash in your sleep, is it?


Vortex - May 16, 2006 8:31:28 am PDT #7597 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Your intent may affect the sentence you get but it doesn't relieve you of the responsibility for having committed the illegal act! Right?

depends on the crime. Generally, crimes are "specific intent" or "general intent". If it's a specific intent crime, you have to intend to commit a crime. A good example is theft. You have to intend to take someone's property and keep it permanently. It's not a crime if you pick up the wrong suitcase at the airport because you thought it was yours. A general intent crime is one in which you simply have to do the act contemplated, regardless of intent. Statutory rape is a great example. Even if you thought that the girl was 18, she was in fact 14, and you committed a crime, even if you can show that you honestly thought she was 18. (are you listening Rob Lowe?)


Vortex - May 16, 2006 8:32:08 am PDT #7598 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Apparently, the judge's instructions to the jury included a definintion of the term "willful ignorance".

heh. as you would imagine, that can overcome the "specific intent" bit