We use the latest in scientific technology and state-of-the-art weaponry and you, if I understand correctly, poke them with a sharp stick.

Dr. Walsh ,'Potential'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Apr 12, 2006 8:03:32 am PDT #533 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yeah, I have an old school no-tank toilet too, and it's wonderful.

All the other plumbing in my apartment is heartache, but man does that flush.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2006 8:22:36 am PDT #534 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does it sound weird for a therapist to tell their patient "You are suffering from clinical depression. Your friends won't understand this."

I've never been diagnosed with depression, nor seen a therapist, so it's perfectly possible I'm missing the nuance. But it just looks like it's setting the patient up for isolation where it doesn't need to be. Some friends might not understand, sure. But all of them? Or even to imply a majority? Hardcore.


sarameg - Apr 12, 2006 8:23:44 am PDT #535 of 10002

This toilet does not impress me. Had to replace the seat (it was an instrument of torture,) the cat keeps falling IN and getting water everywhere because the water is so much lower and she isn't that coordinated, tempermental flushing....

People are proving to me that it really doesn't matter what I say as a precaution, they'll blithely do (or ask) stupid things anyway. I don't know why I bother.

eta: ita, yes. Weird and likely damaging.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 12, 2006 8:24:30 am PDT #536 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

That's an odd thing to say, ita. There may be a context that is not revealed to you though.


brenda m - Apr 12, 2006 8:25:00 am PDT #537 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, ita, that's a very odd way to open that discussion.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2006 8:26:24 am PDT #538 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There may be a context that is not revealed to you though.

That's what I'd hope. Apparently it resulted in the patient wielding it in a "You're doing exactly what my therapist said you would" way.

Odd. I hope it all turns out okay.


msbelle - Apr 12, 2006 8:27:16 am PDT #539 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Several things come to mind:

1) the therapist has heard talk from the patient about the friends and feel they have a decent understanding of them

2) the therapist would have been better served saying "most people" instead of "your friends", in which case I think the therapist would be correct

3) the therapist is a tool

4) the therapist knows the patient and made the statement to get a specific reaction


Nora Deirdre - Apr 12, 2006 8:29:19 am PDT #540 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Apparently it resulted in the patient wielding it in a "You're doing exactly what my therapist said you would" way.

Aha. Perhaps the patient in question has some issues of his/her own, and using the therapist's words to back him/her up.

I don't know. People are crazy. Not saying this person you know is, but the brain processes shit in such weird ways I can hardly trust anything I don't witness first hand.


bon bon - Apr 12, 2006 8:32:57 am PDT #541 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm not so bothered by the context we've seen so far. It's true IME that friends don't always understand clinical depression; that a therapist said that and it got mangled in translation seems likely.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2006 8:35:28 am PDT #542 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not going to go into masses of detail, because not really the Internet's business, but it was framed that way during the diagnosis discussion (or at least how it was reported shortly afterwards), and then some time later it was hauled out as a "told you so!" to someone who was trying to understand. Turns out the patient admits that most of the friends did understand in the end.