You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - May 03, 2006 9:57:55 am PDT #5187 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't get the impression that this guy thinks killing people and eating them is wrong, though.

perhaps, but the question is does he know that it's against the law?


§ ita § - May 03, 2006 9:58:53 am PDT #5188 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

does he know that it's against the law?

Is that the dividing line?

And now I have to go to four hours of meeting. At least there's food.


bon bon - May 03, 2006 9:59:16 am PDT #5189 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

But why only part of a break? I feel very binary about this--either it's okay to kill someone willing, or it's really not.

I see your point. But, I doubt that anyone ever really thought about it. I suppose that a corollary would be a failed suicide pact (i.e. where two people are supposed to shoot each other and one misses)

I think a closer corollary would be euthanasia.

To my obviously unschooled eyes, he sounds like he's crazy by American standards. Isn't it about not being able to recognise what you're doing is wrong? Or is that Law & Order boiling it down and losing the nuance?

Like Vortex already noted, that's close enough definition for a discussion, since every state will be somewhat different. I think it's hard sometimes to separate out the already craziness you need to actually commit a crime, let alone a horrifying murder, and the craziness you need to not know that intentionally killing someone is wrong. I think this guy knew what he was doing was intentional homicide, whether the other guy wanted it or not. BUT this is a great 2-minute L&O legal question.


Vortex - May 03, 2006 9:59:54 am PDT #5190 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is that the dividing line?

pretty much. My use of the "wrong" is synonymous with "illegal"


Vortex - May 03, 2006 10:00:35 am PDT #5191 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think a closer corollary would be euthanasia.

oh, that's even better.


juliana - May 03, 2006 10:01:11 am PDT #5192 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

And now I have to go to four hours of meeting. At least there's food.

Your coworkers do not count as food. Unless there's ketchup.


Jessica - May 03, 2006 10:12:20 am PDT #5193 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Concept toaster.

Toasts between two pieces of heated glass so you can see when your toast is done. Brilliant!


Kathy A - May 03, 2006 10:12:53 am PDT #5194 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Co-workers can be a good source for food--I just got a mini-Nestle bar from just down the aisle. First thing I've eaten since last night; I've got to finish unpacking the kitchen stuff tonight so I can make up some tuna casserole for dinner and lunch for the next few days.


JZ - May 03, 2006 10:17:37 am PDT #5195 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Whiny first-world sulk:

Yesterday morning I brought Monday night's fancy-dinner-out leftovers for lunch (potato gnocchi in a possibly vodka-spiked cream marinara sauce with spinach and mushrooms), and then there was unexpected free food at lunch, so I left the leftovers for today. Now they're gone. The fridge presently contains food dating back from last November, so thrown-out is unlikely. Someone just stole my tasty leftovers! Stole them! Out of the department chair's office!

Also, the cafeteria is really smelly today and all the lines will be really really long until well past 1:00, so now I'm screwed. Well, I have an apple, so I'm not totally screwed. But an apple is thin consolation when one was expecting potato gnocchi in vodka cream marinara sauce.

If I find out which cow-orker poached from me (I suppose I can just wander the hallways looking for someone in a blissed-out food stupor), I'm eating the poacher. With or without ketchup. I'm not fussy.


Theodosia - May 03, 2006 10:19:37 am PDT #5196 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Kathy, if I Paypal you some money, would you promise to eat something healthy?