I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Mar 01, 2006 5:49:56 pm PST #758 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

PR: OMG is Daniel totally crashing and burning? Is Santino winning? Good LORD.


Sean K - Mar 01, 2006 5:59:32 pm PST #759 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

There are plenty of people living in million-dollar homes that they bought with wages, don't you think?

Hmm... I suppose. I guess I forgot you include assets when figuring a person's worth, which would make million dollar home owners technically millionaires, provided they've fully, or even mostly paid off the loan.

I still find the statement a little... off somehow. It's not like people who got their million dollar home through wages alone are living the high life, millionaire style. Plus, I'm still getting stuck on the word "oftentimes," as it makes it sound like a significant minority, or even a mojority of millionaires got there through wages alone, and I still find that hard to believe. Even the people who got there mostly through wages probably also managed some good investment moves to get over the hump. And wouldn't those count as not just "wages alone"? For that matter, if someone is technically a millionaire because of the value of of their home, doesn't that mean they became millionaires through real estate investement, particularly if their home appreciated in value, even if the original home loan was obtained and paid off through "wages alone"?

I guess the statement is just striking me as too vague and broad to actually contain the meaning it seems to want to impart.


le nubian - Mar 01, 2006 6:03:01 pm PST #760 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The Constant Gardener is a good film, but I think the film's title got lost in the book to film translation.


Jesse - Mar 01, 2006 6:36:08 pm PST #761 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I guess the statement is just striking me as too vague and broad to actually contain the meaning it seems to want to impart.

But the whole thing is like that, not just that sentence.

Good news! We're supposed to have "snow, possibly mixing with sleet" starting late tomorrow morning. I have to take the cat to the vet at 2. Granted, it's not far, but farther than I would have chosen to walk carrying a large wiggly container in the snow/sleet.


billytea - Mar 01, 2006 6:39:45 pm PST #762 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I still find the statement a little... off somehow. It's not like people who got their million dollar home through wages alone are living the high life, millionaire style. Plus, I'm still getting stuck on the word "oftentimes," as it makes it sound like a significant minority, or even a mojority of millionaires got there through wages alone, and I still find that hard to believe. Even the people who got there mostly through wages probably also managed some good investment moves to get over the hump. And wouldn't those count as not just "wages alone"? For that matter, if someone is technically a millionaire because of the value of of their home, doesn't that mean they became millionaires through real estate investement, particularly if their home appreciated in value, even if the original home loan was obtained and paid off through "wages alone"?

I recall a study that found that most millionaires had basically got there through being small business owners, and winding up being somewhat larger business owners. Not particularly high flyers as such. But this was back in the early 90s, and I think there have since been changes in the high-net-worth composition.

I will also note that my older brother apparently thinks that I am a millionaire, because
a) He has been smoking the good crack (no, really), and
2. He belongs to a Papuan tribe whose counting system runs "One, two, three, many".


Sean K - Mar 01, 2006 6:43:38 pm PST #763 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

But the whole thing is like that, not just that sentence.

Fair point. I don't know why I fixated on that particular clause in the piece. I just did.


Vortex - Mar 01, 2006 6:59:58 pm PST #764 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Jesse, I'm totally with you re: PR.


sumi - Mar 01, 2006 7:11:57 pm PST #765 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

PR: I know, it's as soon as Daniel was so positive about how great his line was and then Tim was so non-reacting, I'm all, "uh-oh". I enjoyed Tim's visits with Chloe and with Santino very much. Chloe's back story is so interesting. And so is Santino's.


katefate - Mar 01, 2006 7:24:20 pm PST #766 of 10001
Frail my heart apart and play me a little Shady Grove

From much earlier today:

ION, apparently this entire reorganization was devised by the new CIO, without any input from the existing managers, directors or employees. Whee.

Kalshane, you're not in Wisconsin, are you? Because every. single word. you wrote, from the arbitrary and meaningless review to the unilateral reorganization, is what Former Evil Boss did here. He's now a CIO in Wisconsin. Dear lord, I hope it's not him.

Huh. I was so overjoyed at his departure, I've never spared a thought for those who've inherited him. Bless.

Joy. CIO just called an all-hands meeting for Friday at 4pm. It's only supposed to be an hour, but our meetings always, always, always go at least an hour long. Nothing like staying late on a Friday.

good god. That's him, too. If the meeting was scheduled for an hour, by gum he was gonna keep talking whether there was anything left to talk about or not. Google "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" to see a lovely portrait.

IHeightN, I am 5'7" or 5'8" - or somewhere in between. I'm number-impaired, and this seems to be one I can't retain. My little sister is 5'11.5" and great to go shopping with. I can always find her over the racks.

Millionaires: I got nothin.


aurelia - Mar 01, 2006 7:37:35 pm PST #767 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Kalshane is near Wisconsin.

The last two days at work I've been favoring my left shoulder since it seems to hurt any time my elbow leaves my side. Now the muscles in my right shoulder are sore. woo-hoo.