Xander: Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers. Anya: Great. Thank you very much for those nightmares.

'Sleeper'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Mar 29, 2006 2:23:37 pm PST #7148 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm completely embarrassed to admit (yet feel compelled to post it anyway) that most of bt's post above reads to me as blah blah Kant blah blah moral blah blah religious blah blah corrosive. I think I derailed somewhere around orthogonal. Curse my flabby English degree!


§ ita § - Mar 29, 2006 2:24:19 pm PST #7149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Curse my flabby English degree!

See, if you had a math degree, orthogonal would have been the only word you understood.


billytea - Mar 29, 2006 2:25:37 pm PST #7150 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Thinking on this, I've come to realize that I am an extremely cynical hobbesian

My favourite trash-talk slur is "Yo' mamma's like Hobbe's view of nature - nasty, brutish and short."


billytea - Mar 29, 2006 2:27:56 pm PST #7151 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

See, if you had a math degree, orthogonal would have been the only word you understood.

Hee. From which we learn that it was the only word I understood.

To paraphrase, though Kant was a devout Christian, his moral philosophy made it possible to hold reasoned categorical moral positions without being religious. Which weakened the Church's position among the intelligentsia. Or, to paraphrase still further, it was the vibe.


Typo Boy - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:00 pm PST #7152 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

My favourite trash-talk slur is "Yo' mamma's like Hobbe's view of nature - nasty, brutish and short."

That used to be used against Harlan Ellison - probably by him.


§ ita § - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:18 pm PST #7153 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thinking on this, I've come to realize that I am an extremely cynical hobbesian

Hmm. I think I'm a Calvinist.


Sue - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:22 pm PST #7154 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Must clear brain of Kant.

I am, happily, Kant-free since 1991.


sarameg - Mar 29, 2006 2:30:29 pm PST #7155 of 10001

you misspelled cutiehead.

You say this to someone who was pondering that friendships exist because they work to our selfish advantage (more people likely to help you when that dude over there wants to kill you, thus keeping you alive) and because the bennies then set off little chemical explosions (that laughter crap? I dunno) that make us feel good which thus strengthens the will to avoid being killed?

BTW, I still like you!

There is a reason I'm single, people.

Maybe dinner will help.


billytea - Mar 29, 2006 2:30:38 pm PST #7156 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

That used to be used against Harlan Ellison - probably by him.

The Onion once gave it a run too, viz. "I believe the children are our future, insofar as most of them are nasty, brutish and short."


Sean K - Mar 29, 2006 2:32:43 pm PST #7157 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

This discussion would be incomplete without the following:

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could drink you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya'
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
SOCRATES, HIMSELF, WAS PERMANENTLY PISSED...

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away
Hall drank whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!