Thinking on this, I've come to realize that I am an extremely cynical hobbesian (I think. It's been a while since I named philosophers.) I reduced everything I could think of regarding humanity down to a biological imperative to avoid being killed. Of course, that may have been influenced by traffic, hunger and the fact I really wanted to kill the guy who cut me off but he was in a hummer.
Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.
'Serenity'
Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
sarameg - Mar 29, 2006 2:20:27 pm PST #7146 of 10001
msbelle - Mar 29, 2006 2:23:35 pm PST #7147 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
extremely cynical hobbesian
you misspelled cutiehead.
looks like my freecycle person is standing me up, which is fine, but I'd like to get rid of stuff sooner rather than later.
JZ - Mar 29, 2006 2:23:37 pm PST #7148 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
I'm completely embarrassed to admit (yet feel compelled to post it anyway) that most of bt's post above reads to me as blah blah Kant blah blah moral blah blah religious blah blah corrosive. I think I derailed somewhere around orthogonal. Curse my flabby English degree!
§ ita § - Mar 29, 2006 2:24:19 pm PST #7149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Curse my flabby English degree!
See, if you had a math degree, orthogonal would have been the only word you understood.
billytea - Mar 29, 2006 2:25:37 pm PST #7150 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Thinking on this, I've come to realize that I am an extremely cynical hobbesian
My favourite trash-talk slur is "Yo' mamma's like Hobbe's view of nature - nasty, brutish and short."
billytea - Mar 29, 2006 2:27:56 pm PST #7151 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
See, if you had a math degree, orthogonal would have been the only word you understood.
Hee. From which we learn that it was the only word I understood.
To paraphrase, though Kant was a devout Christian, his moral philosophy made it possible to hold reasoned categorical moral positions without being religious. Which weakened the Church's position among the intelligentsia. Or, to paraphrase still further, it was the vibe.
Typo Boy - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:00 pm PST #7152 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
My favourite trash-talk slur is "Yo' mamma's like Hobbe's view of nature - nasty, brutish and short."
That used to be used against Harlan Ellison - probably by him.
§ ita § - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:18 pm PST #7153 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thinking on this, I've come to realize that I am an extremely cynical hobbesian
Hmm. I think I'm a Calvinist.
Sue - Mar 29, 2006 2:28:22 pm PST #7154 of 10001
hip deep in pie
Must clear brain of Kant.
I am, happily, Kant-free since 1991.
sarameg - Mar 29, 2006 2:30:29 pm PST #7155 of 10001
you misspelled cutiehead.
You say this to someone who was pondering that friendships exist because they work to our selfish advantage (more people likely to help you when that dude over there wants to kill you, thus keeping you alive) and because the bennies then set off little chemical explosions (that laughter crap? I dunno) that make us feel good which thus strengthens the will to avoid being killed?
BTW, I still like you!
There is a reason I'm single, people.
Maybe dinner will help.