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Xander ,'Selfless'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Mar 29, 2006 10:49:00 am PST #7053 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

From Salon's Broadsheet:

First, U.S. scientists appear to be closer than ever to creating a pill that could prevent HIV infection. So far, the pill -- which combines the drugs tenofovir and emtricitabine -- seems to have worked on monkeys; human testing around the world should begin soon.

Also, it turns out that mifepristone (RU-486) can do more than help induce medical abortion. Doctors in Scotland have developed a pill containing trace amounts of mifepristone that appears to work as a contraceptive -- and appears to help prevent heart disease, endometriosis and breast cancer. (Yes, it also does windows.) Unlike the standard "the Pill" pill, this drug contains no estrogen or progesterone, which are both associated with breast cancer. But that doesn't just mean it's safer than the old pill; doctors suggest that the new pill -- which works by preventing ovulation -- could actually make a woman's chances of developing cancer lower than if she'd taken no pill at all. According to the Australian Broadcasting Corp.,the new pill also effects the uterine lining, which could mean that women taking it will stop menstruating. This, my gut says, is one of those freaky things you have to be careful about wishing for. But, as one of the new pill's lead researchers, professor Richard Anderson of the University of Edinburgh, pointed out: "Having regular periods is very much a modern thing. If you go back 100 years or so before the advent of contraception, or widespread use of contraception, women didn't really have very many periods because they went from one pregnancy to breastfeeding and then very rapidly onto the next pregnancy." (OK, but still.)

Anderson also suggests -- speaking of wishful thinking -- that perhaps the antiabortion folks will not get all up in the new pill's grill, considering that it contains only a teeny amount of mifepristone. But he also acknowledges that opposition to abortion "is a major problem with this class of drugs and it's been a handicap to their commercial development."

The wingnuts will hate this pill for the same reasons that they will hate the HIV pill -- and for the same reasons they already hate the HPV vaccine: because these drugs prevent pretty much everything but sex. If they don't want to put a drug that "encourages" (sic) free-wheeling sex in the hands of our youth, you can bet they don't want the gays getting ahold of one, either. (And yes, you can bet that they assume that only the gays get HIV.) You can also bet that they're not interested in a contraceptive that they can't oppose on the grounds that it may raise the risk of breast cancer.


shrift - Mar 29, 2006 10:55:48 am PST #7054 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

When is coworker's vacation? After you're gone?

He's out starting today, but I don't know how long he'll be gone.

Do they do this to your coworker while you're on vacation? Or are you just lucky?

Well, my coworker has to do stuff whenever I'm out, or people will scream the house down, but then, I also don't take an entire week of vacation at one time.

I'm more bothered by the fact that they're just telling me this now. Coworker already left for vacation, and I don't really know how to do his job. Also, paralyzed by not caring very much. Also also, I have way too much work to do already.


brenda m - Mar 29, 2006 10:58:01 am PST #7055 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think you should run with the first also. And maybe apologize for the fact that you've got plans after work all week, and if only you'd known, yadda yadda Eat It.


Ailleann - Mar 29, 2006 10:59:35 am PST #7056 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

will not get all up in the new pill's grill

This gives me an image of a birth control case with spinners.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 11:01:15 am PST #7057 of 10001
What is even happening?

I think you should run with the first also. And maybe apologize for the fact that you've got plans after work all week, and if only you'd known, yadda yadda Eat It.

Ditto, shirft. How long 'til you give your notice, again?

I'm not trying to make it palatable, I just think that the reason even moderates are saying he should be executed is because the law of the land happens to be quite clear on what is done is such circumstances. Personally, I'm good with his seeking asylum in Italy.

Yeah, me too.

Didn't he convert 16 or 18 years ago?


tommyrot - Mar 29, 2006 11:03:56 am PST #7058 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Didn't he convert 16 or 18 years ago?

Something like that.

It only came to the attention of the police when he was recently in a custody dispute.


Burrell - Mar 29, 2006 11:10:05 am PST #7059 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

It only came to the attention of the police when he was recently in a custody dispute.

What I heard on NPR was that it only came to the attention of the police because he himself told them about it.


shrift - Mar 29, 2006 11:12:08 am PST #7060 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Ditto, shirft. How long 'til you give your notice, again?

I'm not really planning on working very much extra, because honestly? I have time-sensitive work out the wazoo right now. And I'm thinking I may be giving notice next Monday.


Rick - Mar 29, 2006 11:15:33 am PST #7061 of 10001

I think the main thing the whole stupid issue illustrates is the problems with using Sharia law (sorry, misspelled) as the law of the land.

Agreed. But I think that it also illustrates the general problem of basing moral judgments on beliefs about the supernatural. That happens in this country too.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 11:20:40 am PST #7062 of 10001
What is even happening?

Agreed. But I think that it also illustrates the general problem of basing moral judgments on beliefs about the supernatural. That happens in this country too.
Everyone in the world bases moral judgments on beliefs about the supernatural (because beliefs about the supernatural include those who believe nature is the only reality--that is, that there is no supernatural). The problem is more about basing legal judgments on beliefs about the supernatural, and trying to regulate thought and expression--in this case, those thoughts are opinions on the supernatural.