I am totally not cheating up! I used to claim I was 5'6", and then in college I was measured again and was 5'7". (I was measured against a wall, and also against my suitemate, who is exactly the same height as me.)

I understand that giraffes are tall, but more than that to me they're ungainly and have really long necks.

It's the ungainly tallness, rather than the neck thing, that I was getting at. I'm really not used to being the tallest person in the room, so when I was, I felt like I'd been sucked through a black hole and was some incredible noodly elongated person.

Speaking of pimps, did you all know that the song "It's hard out there for a pimp" is nominated for an Oscar?? (From Hustle and Flow. ) I only know this song because flea and mr. flea earworm each other with it, with slightly euphemistic lyrics. (Think dogs and bones, not pimps and, um, I don't know any of the real lyrics except the title.)

I am totally not cheating up! I used to claim I was 5'6", and then in college I was measured again and was 5'7". (I was measured against a wall, and also against my suitemate, who is exactly the same height as me.)

You know we're never going to believe you heightwise again, and that Hec's checking off "height issues" in your file right now.

Older sisters have that sort of power. But I don't even know if we have the power to undo that sort of idea once it's been set free.

ChiKat, were your grandparents likely to have been malnourished (or even just underfed) as children?

No. They weren't wealthy, but they were strongly middle class. My grandfather had 3 brothers and they were all 5'1" to 5'3". And built like trucks, square and solid.

My grandmother had 2 sisters that I knew and one was around 5'0" but the other was more like 5'4". Maybe there were some hidden taller genes on her side.

Conversely, my mom's parents were 6'1" and 5'9" and my mom is only 5'2". Her sisters were all tall, though.

Only 5'6"! I am totally calling Scandal! I thought Nutty was giant!

Speaking of pimps, did you all know that the song "It's hard out there for a pimp" is nominated for an Oscar??

And they're actually performing it! Well, a tv-edited version of it.

Also, did you ever see that float yesterday?

Nope. Never did. I have the suspicion I'm better off for it.

"It's hard out there for a pimp" is way catchy, but when you have a 2 year old in the house you can't be saying stuff like that. (It gets repeated. Usually at full volume in church or something.) So we sing "It's hard out there for a dog, trying to get some money for a bone." Casper can sing it now too.

Anyone here have PMP certification? I'm looking at the forms you have to fill out outside of the test, and I don't wanna anymore. They seem worse than the test itself.

My mom does. I can ask her any questions you might have...or I could just give you her e-mail address. She's found it very useful, and got her current job because of it.

Also, YAY flea! Congratulations. So exciting!

I am totally calling Scandal! I thought Nutty was giant!

Pah. We have this discussion every six months, when it is re-revealed that ita is the same height as me (or if you believe my sister, taller). Also, I think ita can actually wear most kinds of high heels, which I can't any more.

Jesse is like a yard taller than I am. Nora is taller than I am.

You don't have to be tall to defeat a cheetah!!

Nonono. I may not be certified yet, but I lived in Detroit for years. Pimps walk. It's a punctuated, syncopated rocking bounce. Stroll is way too even and unsnazzy to describe a pimp in motion.

I think I meant "strut" instead of "stroll". However, "strut" sounds too fast for what I'm thinking.

"Walk" however, is WAY to prosaic.