Jeez, don't get all Movie of the Week. I was just too cheap to buy you a real present.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Mar 22, 2006 11:16:26 am PST #5630 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

A letter from one of Missouri's reps on the issue of banning public health clinics from providing contraception to women unable to afford it.

Speaking of, have y'all seen the Salon article Monday on the political fight to ban contraceptives? Very interesting. This letter is a perfect example of the logic presented in the article.


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2006 11:19:46 am PST #5631 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I find it weird, but really, it's not any weirder than a guy painting himself blue and going shirtless at a football game in the winter, or people dressing up as Klingons and marching in a town parade (happened in my Missouri suburb town). I find those things weird too.

Do the Klingons have a god? Is there a Klingon Jesus?

I think probably not. There's a certain passivity to Jesus's sacrifice that I don't think Klingons would be into.

Although it'd be cool if the Klingon Jesus said to Klingon Pilate after Klingon Pilate sentences him to death, "Then it is a good day to die!"

eta: Klingons for Jesus: [link]

Christianity fits well into the Klingon culture, though first impressions may seem to be to the contrary.

Klingons are warriors, first and above all. The Klingon's devotion to the empire, to one's family and to personal honor, is well established. Along with this particular attention to honor is a strong attachment to duty, even to the point of death. For the Klingon, death is not feared. Remember the the Klingon proverb, "Today is a good day to die."

Klingons are not satisfied in peace, even a "peace of the brave," as the Palestinians and Israelis are presently engaged in discovering. For the Klingon, peace is a catastrophe, for it leaves no opportunity to cover oneself in glorious deeds. There is a Klingon proverb, "Pity only the warrior who has defeated all his enemies."

So, where does this leave the Klingon who is at peace with the Federation, who is surrounded with species that will not fight, with Romulans that hide behind a neutral zone, with Cardassians who are cowed and the Dominion who are a dying people? Without an enemy, is it true that Klingons will fight amongst themselves and destroy the empire? It cannot be.

Christianity is a warrior's religion. It offers the Klingon enemies worth fighting: Sin, Death, Satan and his legions. And the greatest holy war of all, a jihad to thrill the heart of a true warrior, the war to dominate one's own will. This is a glorious fight, and one that any true warrior relishes. "If a Klingon does not fight, he does not breathe."

As Paul, that most Klingon of apostles told Timothy, "Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses." (I Tim. 6.12) A Klingon is attracted by such language. But there is more. In the Revelation of Jesus Christ, written by John, it is told, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven." (Rev. 12.7-8)


Sean K - Mar 22, 2006 11:23:57 am PST #5632 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Klingon Pilot

(psst... tommyrot, it's Pilate)

t /athiest bible reference smackdown


tommyrot - Mar 22, 2006 11:25:15 am PST #5633 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

(psst... tommyrot, it's Pilate)

D'oh!

It's been a while....


Jessica - Mar 22, 2006 11:25:18 am PST #5634 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Klingon Pilot

I was picturing Pilot from Farscape, only as a Klingon. (No, I didn't stop to question why Pilot would be sentencing Jesus to death. When Pilot makes a decision, I assume it's for a good reason.)


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2006 11:26:31 am PST #5635 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

When Pilot makes a decision, I assume it's for a good reason.

Well, YEAH. Because he's *Pilot*!


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2006 11:28:51 am PST #5636 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

an axe is essentially a wedge.

Interesting. I'd have conflated it with the other edged things. I still separate weapons (sword) from more utilitarian implements like the knife.


Sean K - Mar 22, 2006 11:29:49 am PST #5637 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

When Pilot makes a decision, I assume it's for a good reason.)

Klingon Moya thought Klingon Jesus was going to harm Klingon Talyn.


JZ - Mar 22, 2006 11:37:40 am PST #5638 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

For the love of all that's holy, please, somebody make this man stop talking. For just two minutes. That's all I ask.


Kathy A - Mar 22, 2006 11:40:53 am PST #5639 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

"There's an interesting debate in the world, is whether or not freedom is universal, see, whether or not -- you know, there's old Bush imposing his values. See, I believe freedom is universal ... The way I put it was, there is an almighty God. One of the greatest gifts of that almighty God is the desire for people to be free, is freedom."

Why is it that I can only hear this in Jon Stewart's version of Bush? "See, I believe freedom is universal...heh heh heh..."