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Ginger - Mar 09, 2006 12:00:02 pm PST #3065 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Formal gowns should not have pockets.

All clothing should have pockets. Pockets with Kleenex in them. They should also have some sort of alarm that goes off when I start to wash them with the Kleenex still inside.


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2006 12:00:02 pm PST #3066 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Don't get me wrong; I looooove pockets in skirts. Just not formal dresses/skirts. Because....they're *formal.*


JZ - Mar 09, 2006 12:00:58 pm PST #3067 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Teppy and ita -- so beautiful, so brilliant, yet so completely wrong in the lack of pocket love.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2006 12:01:59 pm PST #3068 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

so completely wrong in the lack of pocket love

Condemn me if you must, but accuracy requires you to cite my lack of pocket love.


ChiKat - Mar 09, 2006 12:02:41 pm PST #3069 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I must admit to liking the pockets for the jaunty and the sassy (my brain does not share ita's semantic hairlines). It gives a different feel to the formal that I really like.


JZ - Mar 09, 2006 12:05:06 pm PST #3070 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Okay, yes, I stand corrected. You don't not love the pocket, you merely wish to deny women in formalwear their God-given right to look jaunty and insouciant.

It is entirely my intent to flame this into a Buffista battle to stand alongside prescriptivist/descriptionist, Atkins, and the composition of chili.


Nutty - Mar 09, 2006 12:06:20 pm PST #3071 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I don't have a problem with pockets, as long as they're hands-only pockets. Actually, that goes for men too, since it's easy to ruin the line of a beautiful garment by hanging 5 lb. of credit cards inside it.

Armani jackets are usually pocket-free, to preserve the lines of them. In a formal ball gown, the real question would be how to have a flattering, close-to-body line dress that also leaves enough fabric for a hand to fit into a pocket.

Those of us who have worn too-tight trousers can say truthfully that the space for the hand has got to come from somewhere.


juliana - Mar 09, 2006 12:06:58 pm PST #3072 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I don't like the pockets in gowns, because it takes away from the elegance of the line, especially when they stick their hands in the pockets. It almost crosses a "this belongs in the 80s" line for me. (No, don't ask me to explain, I can't. At least not right now.)

I may feel differently about pockets in sleeker gowns. I don't know. However, I don't have many pockets in my wardrobe, so I do not hold out hope.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2006 12:07:08 pm PST #3073 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you merely wish to deny women in formalwear their God-given right to look jaunty and insouciant.

Poor JZ. She only knows one way to look jaunty or insouciant in formalwear.

If you'd like I could arrange some lessons that include slinky insouciance.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2006 12:08:48 pm PST #3074 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't like the pockets in gowns, because it takes away from the elegance of the line

Could you tell either of those dresses had pockets by the silhouettes? Most ballgowns could happily store balloons in pockets without altering their lines. Putting a lipstick and a tampon case in them works just fine for me.