See, in my fantasy, when I'm kissing you... you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait.

Oz ,'First Date'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


meara - Nov 24, 2008 7:37:52 am PST #8060 of 28427

I've read Susan Johnson ones too--they're historical footnotes. They're kinda cool. I think in some of hers they're endnotes, so you can look later if you want. I always thought they were neat. Stuff like "yes, there were condoms in this year, they were made out of blah blah blah, but they were only generally used with prostitutes" or whatever. Or "this was a big deal because if this law had been passed yaddda yadda Corn Laws" etc etc.


Polter-Cow - Nov 24, 2008 7:39:28 am PST #8061 of 28427
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I thought the footnotes in Oscar Wao worked narratively, because they were the tangents the storyteller would have gone off on if he were telling you the story in person.

Right, that's what I liked about them.

Also, I really appreciated the comment someone posted here about hearing Diaz speak (or reading an interview or something), and his saying that he did stuff on purpose so that no one who wasn't a Dominican uber-geek would get everything -- that was to make the reader have the immigrant experience of basically understanding what was going on, while at the same time knowing you were missing out on nuance.

Huh. That's interesting, and I respect his intention. But I'm still with Barb. I read the book to have a reading experience, not an immigrant experience.


lisah - Nov 24, 2008 7:40:36 am PST #8062 of 28427
Punishingly Intricate

As a reader, that would piss me off monumentally because for me, the best experience with a book is to be able to lose myself completely in it, not to be held deliberately at a remove.

I had no problem losing myself in the book at all. If anything the use of the different languages made me understand the characters and made them come vividly to life.

(Jesse, you said exactly what I wanted to say but much smarterer.)


Jesse - Nov 24, 2008 7:43:23 am PST #8063 of 28427
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(Jesse, you said exactly what I wanted to say but much smarterer.)

Woo hoo!

I will say, I found the book difficult but worthwhile, and agree with lisah about the end.


Strix - Nov 24, 2008 1:35:18 pm PST #8064 of 28427
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I love footnotes! And endnotes! But I mostly love 'em in bios, and am also am an ginnormous geekface.


Toddson - Nov 24, 2008 2:17:04 pm PST #8065 of 28427
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Footnotes are, in general, a Good Thing. However, it's a bit disconcerting to find one in the middle of a hot sex scene. Coitus interruptus, indeed.


Kat - Nov 24, 2008 4:36:19 pm PST #8066 of 28427
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I will say, I found the book difficult but worthwhile, and agree with lisah about the end.

I agree with qualifications. I don't mind the spanish just there in the flow because that's what it IS like to talk to my students who are bilingual. I also didn't mind the footnotes at all. Sometimes I chose to completely ignore them and sometimes I found them elucidating and interesting.

I didn't like the novel as much because I wanted to smack Oscar and the ending just made me roll my eyes. Lola (that's the sister right?) LOVED her. But Oscar just irked me.

Tangentially, I liked Drown so much better which has that same mix of spanish and english but is short stories and therefore serves a different niche for me.

I do think it's totally worthwhile even if not my thing - thing.


Consuela - Nov 24, 2008 5:58:12 pm PST #8067 of 28427
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell has footnotes, and I loved it. And them. So does The Princess Bride, if I am not mistaken -- although possibly they're editorial notes, I forget.

I have yet to read Oscar Wao, though I did see Junot Diaz interviewed on the Colbert Report a month or so back.


Sue - Nov 24, 2008 6:19:54 pm PST #8068 of 28427
hip deep in pie

I can't believe that we've gotten this far without mentioning David Foster Wallace. I will admit that I never got through Infinite Jest, but I love his essays, and he has same awesome footnotes.

The Harper's Version of his cruise essay can be found here: [link]

Which contains at one point, this footnote:

31 !


erikaj - Nov 24, 2008 6:58:34 pm PST #8069 of 28427
Always Anti-fascist!

I tried, but in the end, for all of its truly brilliant bits, and there are, believe me, I just wanted to be like Deb by the end and say "Sorry about your penis." Which, now that he's dead, feels awful. But a thousand pages? Really?