Saffron: He's my husband. Mal: Well, who in the damn galaxy ain't?

'Trash'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


erikaj - Sep 24, 2008 9:26:06 am PDT #7470 of 28404
Always Anti-fascist!

That in itself sounds like a Maurice project...remember the one with the Japanese couples and the N. Lights?


erikaj - Sep 24, 2008 9:26:11 am PDT #7471 of 28404
Always Anti-fascist!

Typo Boy - Sep 24, 2008 9:27:21 am PDT #7472 of 28404
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I also think there is a difference between going into a coffee shop and ordering their cherry pie, and asking to buy the clothes off the back of a stranger. (The stranger being a teenage girl adds to the Craxy, but pretty insane even if the person approached was an adult.)


erikaj - Sep 24, 2008 9:28:19 am PDT #7473 of 28404
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes, wrod.


Fay - Sep 24, 2008 3:22:25 pm PDT #7474 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Although I know there is a HUGE fandom which goes to Prince Edward Island on "Anne of Green Gables" tours. Many of them from Japan, I hear.

Similarly Haworth is TOTALLY Brontedelic, and High Withins (the place upon which Wuthering Heights is based) has flocks upon flocks of tourists prowling around. Many many many of them Japanese. But that's not quite the same thing.

I also think there is a difference between going into a coffee shop and ordering their cherry pie, and asking to buy the clothes off the back of a stranger.

God, yes. Geeking out to one's own heart's content is one thing; imposing one's fannishness on innocent bystanders in a scary & intrusive fashion, otoh...not so much with the cool.


Barb - Sep 25, 2008 4:48:01 am PDT #7475 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”

Interesting interview with Annie Proulx [link]

She goes rantful on the fanfic writers, especially the ones who send her their stuff. (God, I can't even begin to imagine...)

WSJ: What effect did the success of "Brokeback Mountain" have on your writing life, if any?

Ms. Proulx: "Brokeback Mountain" has had little effect on my writing life, but is the source of constant irritation in my private life. There are countless people out there who think the story is open range to explore their fantasies and to correct what they see as an unbearably disappointing story. They constantly send ghastly manuscripts and pornish rewrites of the story to me, expecting me to reply with praise and applause for "fixing" the story. They certainly don't get the message that if you can't fix it you've got to stand it. Most of these "fix-it" tales have the character Ennis finding a husky boyfriend and living happily ever after, or discovering the character Jack is not really dead after all, or having the two men's children meet and marry, etc., etc. Nearly all of these remedial writers are men, and most of them begin, "I'm not gay but…." They do not understand the original story, they know nothing of copyright infringement—i.e., that the characters Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar are my intellectual property—and, beneath every mangled rewrite is the unspoken assumption that because they are men they can write this story better than a woman can. They have not a clue that the original "Brokeback Mountain" was part of a collection of stories about Wyoming exploring mores and myths. The general impression I get is that they are bouncing off the film, not the story. There's more, but that is enough, ok?

I have to agree with Smart Bitch Sarah, who said that "because I'm a man, I can write it better" assumption seemed like a pretty big one to make. She's an interesting writer, but a bit off-putting in this interview. On the one hand, I can relate to the fact that she doesn't want to be labeled a certain type of writer, but thing is, she kind of is a certain type of writer.


sumi - Sep 25, 2008 4:55:20 am PDT #7476 of 28404
Art Crawl!!!

Sidenote: it is interesting to me that most of the fic writers she gets this stuff from are men. Aren't most fic writers - overall - women?


Fay - Sep 25, 2008 5:23:30 am PDT #7477 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Sidenote: it is interesting to me that most of the fic writers she gets this stuff from are men. Aren't most fic writers - overall - women?

That surprised me too.

I remember there was a male ficwriter posting on the Temeraire LJ, who clearly hadn't a very high opinion of "fangirls" or the online ficwriting community, despite the fact that he was enjoying the books enough to be penning fanfic himself. It was all a bit odd.


Jessica - Sep 25, 2008 6:01:40 am PDT #7478 of 28404
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm guessing a majority of female slashfic writers have been in fandom long enough to know better than to send their work to the original source's author.


Dana - Sep 25, 2008 6:05:12 am PDT #7479 of 28404
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Sadly, not always. Plus, there are the new fandoms like bandom RPF where the fans actually have a much closer relationship to the people involved.

In this case, I think it's because the source actually involves two gay men, rather than being mostly based on subtext.