Sidenote: it is interesting to me that most of the fic writers she gets this stuff from are men. Aren't most fic writers - overall - women?
Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.
Cordelia ,'End of Days'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
sumi - Sep 25, 2008 4:55:20 am PDT #7476 of 28404
Art Crawl!!!
Fay - Sep 25, 2008 5:23:30 am PDT #7477 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Sidenote: it is interesting to me that most of the fic writers she gets this stuff from are men. Aren't most fic writers - overall - women?
That surprised me too.
I remember there was a male ficwriter posting on the Temeraire LJ, who clearly hadn't a very high opinion of "fangirls" or the online ficwriting community, despite the fact that he was enjoying the books enough to be penning fanfic himself. It was all a bit odd.
Jessica - Sep 25, 2008 6:01:40 am PDT #7478 of 28404
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I'm guessing a majority of female slashfic writers have been in fandom long enough to know better than to send their work to the original source's author.
Dana - Sep 25, 2008 6:05:12 am PDT #7479 of 28404
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Sadly, not always. Plus, there are the new fandoms like bandom RPF where the fans actually have a much closer relationship to the people involved.
In this case, I think it's because the source actually involves two gay men, rather than being mostly based on subtext.
Strega - Sep 25, 2008 7:18:52 am PDT #7480 of 28404
Men write a lot of fanfic. The difference is that they just call it porn, and post it on XXX story sites instead of on fan sites.
Aims - Sep 25, 2008 8:44:00 am PDT #7481 of 28404
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Although I know there is a HUGE fandom which goes to Prince Edward Island on "Anne of Green Gables" tours.
Would totally take that tour.
P.M. Marc - Sep 25, 2008 8:44:09 am PDT #7482 of 28404
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I remember there was a male ficwriter posting on the Temeraire LJ, who clearly hadn't a very high opinion of "fangirls" or the online ficwriting community, despite the fact that he was enjoying the books enough to be penning fanfic himself. It was all a bit odd.
Ahahaha. That is just funny on so. many. levels.
Sidenote: it is interesting to me that most of the fic writers she gets this stuff from are men. Aren't most fic writers - overall - women?
So, fandom-as-we-know-it (the loosely organized gift economy one with the 'zine past and the Kirk/Spock and what not, that is) is mainly female. But there are areas where you see a lot of fanworks by men, like old-school Who. It's a parallel universe, for me at least.
Sadly, not always. Plus, there are the new fandoms like bandom RPF where the fans actually have a much closer relationship to the people involved.
Yeah on both. The utter lack of a fourth wall with bandom (not usually the fault of the fic writers) continues to give me the wiggins. (When the people being written about leave feedback or bitch that they're not being paired with someone enough, my brain starts to short the hell out.)
Barb - Sep 25, 2008 8:48:54 am PDT #7483 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”
When the people being written about leave feedback or bitch that they're not being paired with someone enough,
::boggles::
REALLY??
Dana - Sep 25, 2008 8:51:41 am PDT #7484 of 28404
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Seriously. The brave new world is totally weird.
juliana - Sep 25, 2008 8:53:28 am PDT #7485 of 28404
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
::boggles::
REALLY??
Heheheheh. Yeah.
I think what we're seeing here (re: bandom in specific, though the phenomenon is not restricted to that) is the leading edge of the new interaction between artists and audience. A lot of these artists are on the web constantly, they are very aware and very comfortable with social media, and some of them actually did write fanfic back in the day (and may still - there's some suspicion on that point). They're too savvy to believe that they wouldn't get the same treatment. Some of them enjoy it, some of them don't.