We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Jun 16, 2008 9:09:18 am PDT #6155 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But thanks for your opinion of my intelligence.

Ignorance refers to what you don't know. Not your capacity for thinking.

And somebody can stand in front of a Kandinsky and say, "My kid could paint that" and it's still an ignorant comment.

Know-nothingism is bullshit, and I'm not sorry to call it out.


Connie Neil - Jun 16, 2008 9:12:05 am PDT #6156 of 28370
brillig

Know-nothingism is bullshit, and I'm not sorry to call it not.

So you're extrapolating from my dislike of one author that I have no regard for literature that's considered difficult? You are accusing me of know-nothingism?

I await your apology, sir.


Scrappy - Jun 16, 2008 9:12:56 am PDT #6157 of 28370
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I have no problem with Connie not liking Joyce. Lotsa folks don't like Joyce. And I don't think liking or not liking Joyce is a measure of intellect and hec is bringing an un-needed smackdown. However, saying it is "gibberish" is awfully dismissive of an incredible literary work.


Steph L. - Jun 16, 2008 9:13:10 am PDT #6158 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Seriously, David. PLEASE stop this right now.

It's unkind, and you are a very kind man. Please don't do this.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:01 am PDT #6159 of 28370
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I got to agree with Scrappy on this one.


Fred Pete - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:02 am PDT #6160 of 28370
Ann, that's a ferret.

(or...is there a story of his that's about going to some sort of crowded open-air marketplace?)

A fair or a festival, perhaps? I was thinking of "Araby" when I mentioned Joyce's shorter works. It's a delight to read even if the mood is very somber.

And while "gibberish" is a very blunt way of putting forth an opinion (certainly blunter than Buffistas typically are), not getting a particular writer's experiments with language don't equate to anti-intellectualism.


Connie Neil - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:31 am PDT #6161 of 28370
brillig

Gibberish may have been a bit fraught an adjective, and I can see where it would be considered unpleasant to those who enjoy Joyce's prose. I apologize for that.

But for nothing else.


erikaj - Jun 16, 2008 9:18:43 am PDT #6162 of 28370
Always Anti-fascist!

I have to admit that I attempted Ulysses on my own once(because it was a banned book) and I had no idea that it was a Thing that people did for years, sometimes. What I got from it is that I thought there were bits that I thought sounded cool. Is that more or less intellectual than not reading it? I've never attempted Moby Dick, though it's one of David Simon's great favorites. The heft discouraged me a little, I have to admit.


erikaj - Jun 16, 2008 9:19:00 am PDT #6163 of 28370
Always Anti-fascist!

I have to admit that I attempted Ulysses on my own once(because it was a banned book) and I had no idea that it was a Thing that people did for years, sometimes. What I got from it is that I thought there were bits that I thought sounded cool. Is that more or less intellectual than not reading it? I've never attempted Moby Dick, though it's one of David Simon's great favorites. The heft discouraged me a little, I have to admit.


Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2008 9:19:13 am PDT #6164 of 28370
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A fair or a festival, perhaps? I was thinking of "Araby" when I mentioned Joyce's shorter works. It's a delight to read even if the mood is very somber.

Yeah, that's the one! I don't recall liking that one or seeing the point of it.