Know-nothingism is bullshit, and I'm not sorry to call it not.
So you're extrapolating from my dislike of one author that I have no regard for literature that's considered difficult? You are accusing me of know-nothingism?
I await your apology, sir.
Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.
Xander ,'Empty Places'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Connie Neil - Jun 16, 2008 9:12:05 am PDT #6156 of 28370
brillig
Scrappy - Jun 16, 2008 9:12:56 am PDT #6157 of 28370
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I have no problem with Connie not liking Joyce. Lotsa folks don't like Joyce. And I don't think liking or not liking Joyce is a measure of intellect and hec is bringing an un-needed smackdown. However, saying it is "gibberish" is awfully dismissive of an incredible literary work.
Steph L. - Jun 16, 2008 9:13:10 am PDT #6158 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Seriously, David. PLEASE stop this right now.
It's unkind, and you are a very kind man. Please don't do this.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:01 am PDT #6159 of 28370
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I got to agree with Scrappy on this one.
Fred Pete - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:02 am PDT #6160 of 28370
Ann, that's a ferret.
(or...is there a story of his that's about going to some sort of crowded open-air marketplace?)
A fair or a festival, perhaps? I was thinking of "Araby" when I mentioned Joyce's shorter works. It's a delight to read even if the mood is very somber.
And while "gibberish" is a very blunt way of putting forth an opinion (certainly blunter than Buffistas typically are), not getting a particular writer's experiments with language don't equate to anti-intellectualism.
Connie Neil - Jun 16, 2008 9:17:31 am PDT #6161 of 28370
brillig
Gibberish may have been a bit fraught an adjective, and I can see where it would be considered unpleasant to those who enjoy Joyce's prose. I apologize for that.
But for nothing else.
erikaj - Jun 16, 2008 9:18:43 am PDT #6162 of 28370
Always Anti-fascist!
I have to admit that I attempted Ulysses on my own once(because it was a banned book) and I had no idea that it was a Thing that people did for years, sometimes. What I got from it is that I thought there were bits that I thought sounded cool. Is that more or less intellectual than not reading it? I've never attempted Moby Dick, though it's one of David Simon's great favorites. The heft discouraged me a little, I have to admit.
erikaj - Jun 16, 2008 9:19:00 am PDT #6163 of 28370
Always Anti-fascist!
I have to admit that I attempted Ulysses on my own once(because it was a banned book) and I had no idea that it was a Thing that people did for years, sometimes. What I got from it is that I thought there were bits that I thought sounded cool. Is that more or less intellectual than not reading it? I've never attempted Moby Dick, though it's one of David Simon's great favorites. The heft discouraged me a little, I have to admit.
Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2008 9:19:13 am PDT #6164 of 28370
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
A fair or a festival, perhaps? I was thinking of "Araby" when I mentioned Joyce's shorter works. It's a delight to read even if the mood is very somber.
Yeah, that's the one! I don't recall liking that one or seeing the point of it.
DavidS - Jun 16, 2008 9:19:27 am PDT #6165 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I await your apology, sir.
I'll save the quip and just tell you that you won't get one.