I had a whole section about civic pride.

Mayor ,'Chosen'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - May 06, 2008 7:55:49 am PDT #5686 of 28348
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?

Sums up a lot of writers and artists. In fact, finding the ones who aren't full of shit is probably the rarer trait.

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:
Neil Gaiman (very sensible and charming)
Uhm...Richard Russo seems like a good guy.
Flannery O'Conner (thoroughly impatient with bullshit)
Hmmm, Philip Roth is not full of shit, but has been frequently pretty shitty.


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 8:03:16 am PDT #5687 of 28348
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is why I actually agree (in a general sense) with a lot of what he is saying in that piece.

I can't take his point seriously because of all the parallels he's trying to draw. There are only so many stories to be told is way different from how transformative a lexicon may or may not be. The degree and honesty of Dumbledore's homosexuality? Compared to OSC's treatment of same? How is it relevant and anything other than distracting?


Hayden - May 06, 2008 8:07:23 am PDT #5688 of 28348
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:

That list was soooo full of shit. (To quote a great imaginary American, I kid! I kid because I loooooove.)


megan walker - May 06, 2008 8:08:34 am PDT #5689 of 28348
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Maybe because I've never read anything else he's written, I could just mostly walk away with his main point, which was JKR is being really hypocritical in all this, which I've been thinking for some time.


Miracleman - May 06, 2008 8:10:48 am PDT #5690 of 28348
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I also found OSC's characterization of JKR to be annoying. I mean...for all I know he may be right, but how does he know what her motivations might be? And, again, how is it relevant to the subject of discussion?


Aims - May 06, 2008 8:13:52 am PDT #5691 of 28348
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Beacuse she's a doody-head.


DXMachina - May 06, 2008 8:19:26 am PDT #5692 of 28348
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Other than the "intense game played in midair" part, isn't that the plot of like half the kids fantasy novels in existence?

I think that was pretty much OSC's point, sarcastically expressed. His main point seems to be this:

If Steven Vander Ark, the author of Lexicon, had written fiction that he claimed was original, when it was actually a rearrangement of ideas taken from the Harry Potter books, then she'd have a case.

But Lexicon is intended only as a reference book for people who have already paid for their copies of Rowling's books. Even though the book is not scholarly, it certainly falls within the realm of scholarly comment.


Typo Boy - May 06, 2008 8:19:32 am PDT #5693 of 28348
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I actually think Rowling is wrong on this - just not for any of the reasons OSC said. Stop being on my side Fucko!


beth b - May 06, 2008 8:26:12 am PDT #5694 of 28348
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I saw OSC speak at a bookstore. There were a huge number of things he said that were sort of ???? but DH and I were ROTFL at one bit -- he claimed that SF was the only genre where anyone was doing anything new with the novel, but he didn't really explain this. However - he then went onto to explain the current literary novel - we meet a guy in his 20's - not good, not bad, but in no way shape or form taking any control of her life - he drifts in to a job , drifts into a marriage, just floating along with the current until one day in his 40's something terrible happens and guy realizes his drifting is bad and he grows up. DH and I had just read a book like that. My feeling about OSC is that he makes some good points, however,he is so arragont and self centered that he has no judgment.


Jessica - May 06, 2008 8:53:59 am PDT #5695 of 28348
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My feeling about OSC is that he makes some good points, however,he is so arragont and self centered that he has no judgment.

And then there's the problem of his insano-extreme views on homosexuality and how it's destroying America.