I-I'm just taking things without paying for th... In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?

Willow ,'Showtime'


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Miracleman - May 06, 2008 7:33:59 am PDT #5681 of 28348
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Those FUCKERS, all of them, stealing from OSC! (I know, I know, but the ones that came out *before* Ender's Game, well, they were....stealing straight out of his BRAIN!)

Teppy, Teppy, Teppy...you poor naive fool...

Obviously there was an extensive plot using time-travel! They even took the basic premises behind Ender's Game and enjoined Homer and Virgil to write epics based on them! The New Testament? Handed to the authors by time-travelling scumfuckers who only wanted to discredit and rip off OSC.

You'd have to be blind to not see it.


Steph L. - May 06, 2008 7:41:12 am PDT #5682 of 28348
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You'd have to be blind to not see it.

::weeps:: You're right! You're so right! OSC, forgive me!!!


megan walker - May 06, 2008 7:44:50 am PDT #5683 of 28348
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

JKR stole lots of notions, but OSC is not even in the top ten of her influences.

Which is why I actually agree (in a general sense) with a lot of what he is saying in that piece.


Jessica - May 06, 2008 7:51:34 am PDT #5684 of 28348
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I really really liked Ender's Game. That having been said, the man is full of shit.

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?


brenda m - May 06, 2008 7:52:34 am PDT #5685 of 28348
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't know. If the guy had written a book with very similar themes and tropes and JKR was having a fit over it, then sure. That's not really what's going here though - apples and oranges, from where I sit.


DavidS - May 06, 2008 7:55:49 am PDT #5686 of 28348
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?

Sums up a lot of writers and artists. In fact, finding the ones who aren't full of shit is probably the rarer trait.

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:
Neil Gaiman (very sensible and charming)
Uhm...Richard Russo seems like a good guy.
Flannery O'Conner (thoroughly impatient with bullshit)
Hmmm, Philip Roth is not full of shit, but has been frequently pretty shitty.


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 8:03:16 am PDT #5687 of 28348
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is why I actually agree (in a general sense) with a lot of what he is saying in that piece.

I can't take his point seriously because of all the parallels he's trying to draw. There are only so many stories to be told is way different from how transformative a lexicon may or may not be. The degree and honesty of Dumbledore's homosexuality? Compared to OSC's treatment of same? How is it relevant and anything other than distracting?


Hayden - May 06, 2008 8:07:23 am PDT #5688 of 28348
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:

That list was soooo full of shit. (To quote a great imaginary American, I kid! I kid because I loooooove.)


megan walker - May 06, 2008 8:08:34 am PDT #5689 of 28348
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Maybe because I've never read anything else he's written, I could just mostly walk away with his main point, which was JKR is being really hypocritical in all this, which I've been thinking for some time.


Miracleman - May 06, 2008 8:10:48 am PDT #5690 of 28348
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I also found OSC's characterization of JKR to be annoying. I mean...for all I know he may be right, but how does he know what her motivations might be? And, again, how is it relevant to the subject of discussion?