We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Miracleman - May 06, 2008 7:33:59 am PDT #5681 of 28590
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Those FUCKERS, all of them, stealing from OSC! (I know, I know, but the ones that came out *before* Ender's Game, well, they were....stealing straight out of his BRAIN!)

Teppy, Teppy, Teppy...you poor naive fool...

Obviously there was an extensive plot using time-travel! They even took the basic premises behind Ender's Game and enjoined Homer and Virgil to write epics based on them! The New Testament? Handed to the authors by time-travelling scumfuckers who only wanted to discredit and rip off OSC.

You'd have to be blind to not see it.


Steph L. - May 06, 2008 7:41:12 am PDT #5682 of 28590
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You'd have to be blind to not see it.

::weeps:: You're right! You're so right! OSC, forgive me!!!


megan walker - May 06, 2008 7:44:50 am PDT #5683 of 28590
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

JKR stole lots of notions, but OSC is not even in the top ten of her influences.

Which is why I actually agree (in a general sense) with a lot of what he is saying in that piece.


Jessica - May 06, 2008 7:51:34 am PDT #5684 of 28590
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I really really liked Ender's Game. That having been said, the man is full of shit.

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?


brenda m - May 06, 2008 7:52:34 am PDT #5685 of 28590
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't know. If the guy had written a book with very similar themes and tropes and JKR was having a fit over it, then sure. That's not really what's going here though - apples and oranges, from where I sit.


DavidS - May 06, 2008 7:55:49 am PDT #5686 of 28590
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?

Sums up a lot of writers and artists. In fact, finding the ones who aren't full of shit is probably the rarer trait.

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:
Neil Gaiman (very sensible and charming)
Uhm...Richard Russo seems like a good guy.
Flannery O'Conner (thoroughly impatient with bullshit)
Hmmm, Philip Roth is not full of shit, but has been frequently pretty shitty.


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 8:03:16 am PDT #5687 of 28590
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is why I actually agree (in a general sense) with a lot of what he is saying in that piece.

I can't take his point seriously because of all the parallels he's trying to draw. There are only so many stories to be told is way different from how transformative a lexicon may or may not be. The degree and honesty of Dumbledore's homosexuality? Compared to OSC's treatment of same? How is it relevant and anything other than distracting?


Hayden - May 06, 2008 8:07:23 am PDT #5688 of 28590
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Writers Who Aren't Full of Shit:

That list was soooo full of shit. (To quote a great imaginary American, I kid! I kid because I loooooove.)


megan walker - May 06, 2008 8:08:34 am PDT #5689 of 28590
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Maybe because I've never read anything else he's written, I could just mostly walk away with his main point, which was JKR is being really hypocritical in all this, which I've been thinking for some time.


Miracleman - May 06, 2008 8:10:48 am PDT #5690 of 28590
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I also found OSC's characterization of JKR to be annoying. I mean...for all I know he may be right, but how does he know what her motivations might be? And, again, how is it relevant to the subject of discussion?