Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.

'Underneath'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


meara - May 05, 2008 12:36:59 pm PDT #5648 of 28348

If you intend to become a virgin bride, I advise against becoming anybody's mistress, no matter how innocent that anybody may be.

I think it's usually that she's only POSING as his mistress. Or that he THINKS she's a mistress, but she's not. Or she's posing as someone else's (to cover up that he's gay/has another more scandalous mistress/is impotent/whatever)


Jessica - May 05, 2008 1:15:05 pm PDT #5649 of 28348
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm sorry ita, could you post that again? I was unable to read for a moment on account of my eyes having rolled out of my head.


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2008 2:11:49 pm PDT #5650 of 28348
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it's usually that she's only POSING as his mistress. Or that he THINKS she's a mistress, but she's not. Or she's posing as someone else's (to cover up that he's gay/has another more scandalous mistress/is impotent/whatever)

Yep.

Man, I kind of miss those old Harlequin Presents now. Ah, innocent 18 year old secretaries who fall under the spell of their (always swarthy) much-older alpha male boss (secret baby subplot optional).


Kate P. - May 05, 2008 2:51:45 pm PDT #5651 of 28348
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Huh. From that OSC link:

When I have a gay character in my fiction, I say so right in the book. I don't wait until after it has had all its initial sales to mention it.

Does Card actually have gay characters in his books? How does he treat them? I admit I've never read anything by him (I missed Ender's Game during those crucial high school years), but I just assumed that his books would reflect his anti-gay stance by not including any gay characters.


Amy - May 05, 2008 3:02:57 pm PDT #5652 of 28348
Because books.

Man, I kind of miss those old Harlequin Presents now. Ah, innocent 18 year old secretaries who fall under the spell of their (always swarthy) much-older alpha male boss (secret baby subplot optional).

Looks like Presents is still offering those, although with more glitz, and so is Harlequin Romance. Her Skeikh Boss! His Pregnant Housekeeper!


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2008 3:18:59 pm PDT #5653 of 28348
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

they may be selling, but I am not buying, no matter how huge my Penny Jordan collection was at 13. Things scarred me for life.


Amy - May 05, 2008 3:22:14 pm PDT #5654 of 28348
Because books.

It amazes me that they're still so popular. Presents and Romance are virtually the same line. I think the only differences may be length and degree of on-camera sex.


sj - May 05, 2008 3:22:56 pm PDT #5655 of 28348
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

they may be selling, but I am not buying, no matter how huge my Penny Jordan collection was at 13. Things scarred me for life.

She was the Harlequin author I had a huge collection of too!


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2008 3:35:28 pm PDT #5656 of 28348
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Her books were like crack! Patriarchy-addled, colonialist-approved crack, but crack just the same.


Jessica - May 05, 2008 3:43:09 pm PDT #5657 of 28348
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't recall an openly gay character in an OSC book, no.