I would be there right now.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Mar 13, 2008 10:11:04 am PDT #5211 of 28344
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I read a whole book on the topic, several years ago, and the classic example disproving that thesis is The French Lieutenant's Woman, which is a film arty enough that it can't even be shot down on snooty anti-populist grounds. (The book also brought up whether Apocalypse Now is really an adaptation of Heart of Darkness, and if it is, whether it's a successful one, and in the process what "successful adaptation" means.)


meara - Mar 13, 2008 10:50:32 am PDT #5212 of 28344

Ooh, let me know if the nuns book is good, Susan--that sounds interesting.


Gris - Mar 13, 2008 11:03:17 am PDT #5213 of 28344
Hey. New board.

And Breakfast at Tiffany's - mediocre book, mediocre movie, or mediocre both? (Personally, I think it is a very good book and a very good movie. "Great" may be a word reserved for things that are less fun. At least that's how I've always seen it interpreted.)


Dana - Mar 13, 2008 11:04:09 am PDT #5214 of 28344
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

If nothing else, Breakfast at Tiffany's is prevented from being great by the horrible racial caricature. But I do love the rest of the movie.


Susan W. - Mar 13, 2008 11:17:12 am PDT #5215 of 28344
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Ooh, let me know if the nuns book is good, Susan--that sounds interesting.

I will. I can't even remember where I heard about it, a review, a blog comment, or what, but the title pinged my inner historian.


Fred Pete - Mar 13, 2008 11:17:25 am PDT #5216 of 28344
Ann, that's a ferret.

Were there any good film adaptations of Austen books before 1990?

Laurence Olivier played Mr. Darcy in a 1940 version of Pride and Prejudice. Which won an Oscar for Art Direction. So even though I haven't seen it, I can't dismiss it out of hand.

I'll go so far as to say that different qualities make a good book as opposed to a good movie. For example, a book can take a dozen pages to perform blatant exposition without it necessarily being a fault. A movie taking 10 minutes, less so.


Susan W. - Mar 13, 2008 11:22:35 am PDT #5217 of 28344
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Laurence Olivier played Mr. Darcy in a 1940 version of Pride and Prejudice. Which won an Oscar for Art Direction. So even though I haven't seen it, I can't dismiss it out of hand.

It gets mixed reviews. It tends to appall Austen purists because the costumes are Victorian and Lady Catherine de Burgh is defanged, but there are those who love it, too. I fall on the purist side of the fence, but that may be at least partly because I saw the Firth/Ehle version first and just can't imagine P&P being done better.

The Risky Regencies blog discussed the Oliver adaptation here: [link]


Typo Boy - Mar 13, 2008 11:24:44 am PDT #5218 of 28344
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I also use he French Lieutenant's Woman as an example of why in translation from book to film preserving the spirit often requires significant alterations in the letter.


Amy - Mar 13, 2008 11:29:27 am PDT #5219 of 28344
Because books.

I'm guessing Jane Eyre maybe doesn't count as a "great" book (although I think it has a lot of historical significance), but the 1940s Orson Welles version was really faithful, and nicely done.

I also think Rosemary's Baby is overlooked as pretty pointed social commentary, and the film adaptation was so faithful it was almost eerie. Also, a really good movie.


Susan W. - Mar 13, 2008 11:36:32 am PDT #5220 of 28344
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'll go so far as to say that different qualities make a good book as opposed to a good movie.

In my own writing, I've learned that the more strongly I visualize a scene, the more difficult it is to write. I don't spend a lot of time daydreaming that anything I write will ever be a movie, but with those scenes, I do, because they're usually just so cinematic--the kind of thing you can convey beautifully with a few visuals, the right music in the background, the expression on a good actor's face, but are hard to get across with the same subtle emotional impact when I have to try to write down the amazing evocative picture in my head.