I'm so sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my fun-time-Buffy party night involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you want to trade... no wait, I wouldn't give up that memory for anything.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Toddson - Oct 31, 2007 7:29:27 am PDT #4218 of 28235
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

On reflection, I realize both do a lot of vampire stuff. (Nancy Collins - not sure of the spelling at this point - wrote "Sunglasses at Night" among other books and stories).


Atropa - Oct 31, 2007 9:50:30 am PDT #4219 of 28235
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Never heard of Nancy Collins, Todd. Poppy Z. Brite is a good example, but not as mainstream as I was thinking.

The only female horror writer I can think of that doesn't do vampire stuff is Caitlin. R. Kiernan. And while Caitlin has done well, I know she hasn't hit any best seller lists.


Volans - Oct 31, 2007 10:03:51 am PDT #4220 of 28235
move out and draw fire

Shirley Jackson?

Joyce Carol Oates has a couple pretty good short stories that turn up in horror anthologies, and then there's Whassherface that wrote The Yellow Wallpaper.


Dana - Oct 31, 2007 10:06:23 am PDT #4221 of 28235
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Shirley Jackson?

Oh, good one.


Amy - Oct 31, 2007 10:13:18 am PDT #4222 of 28235
Because books.

Shirley Jackson. There you go.

Caitlin Kiernan's debut, Silk, looks really good, Jilli. I may have to get my hands on that.

I guess I'm wondering if there will be any other really mainstream successful horror writers of either gender at this point. Stephen King certainly isn't writing strictly *horror* at this point, but he's earned his audience over the years. Same with Straub. Horror simply isn't as big as it was in its heyday, although I wish it were. I wish there was more *good* horror, like The Haunting of Hill House or Floating Dragon or The Exorcist. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place, though. I've been wanting to read The Ruins, which is supposed to be fantastic.


Atropa - Oct 31, 2007 11:12:32 am PDT #4223 of 28235
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Silk is fantastic, Amy. Actually, I think all of Caitlin's work is good; she's one of the few writers who can creep me out. I can't read her books after dark anymore.


Toddson - Oct 31, 2007 11:36:53 am PDT #4224 of 28235
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I recently read The Ruins and was disappointed. It seemed long and drawn out and nothing really original. Maybe for those familiar with horror stories/movies it's been done.


Volans - Oct 31, 2007 11:59:53 am PDT #4225 of 28235
move out and draw fire

It used to be there were no female science-fiction authors or female fantasy authors. Now I would say that women are prevalent in fantasy and well-represented in sci-fi...maybe the same will happen in horror.

I wish horror would have a renaissance too. Maybe we need a less horrifying real world for that to happen.


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2007 12:07:31 pm PDT #4226 of 28235
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm sure there are theses that link the sociopolitical climate of the time to whether or not horror is entertainment, and if so what kind.

I mean that is why people do film degrees, right?


Amy - Oct 31, 2007 12:22:04 pm PDT #4227 of 28235
Because books.

Horror *film* has made a comeback, though. Even television is embracing the paranormal again (and I don't just mean Supernatural). Romance is publishing paranormals like crazy again, when as little as eight or nine years ago they wouldn't touch them.

It's straight-up horror fiction that hasn't really made a comeback, as far as I can tell, although I think there are hopes for it based on the success of The Ruins. Sucks to hear that was disappointing, Todd.