You know, it's funny. We went to war never looking to come back, but it's the real world I couldn't survive.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Liese S. - Aug 07, 2007 1:27:24 pm PDT #3582 of 28199
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I hate Stephenson. Really, really hate him. Threw the book across the room, hate him. And damaged the cover. And Didn't Even Care!

I love Gibson. I cannot wait until I get my hands on Spook Country, but it will have to wait as I spent my book allowance on Vampire People.

eta: Hee! I missed hitting the post button. I think it happened because I'd left off a period, and the b.org will not allow such a travesty.


DavidS - Aug 07, 2007 1:27:49 pm PDT #3583 of 28199
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gibson's prose is denser and more detailed, as if he really, really wants you to know that he sees that world in his head.

I guess that's the whole thing. Density of information is one of the great cyberpunk ideals. And it also happens to overlap with my understanding of literary prose. The density means there's more there. It's richer and more allusive. It's more evocative. All that means "better" to me. Whereas I think prose can be so user friendly as to be lacking in substance. That's not how I'd describe Stephenson, but on my spectrum Gibson being over on the dense side is a positive.

Besides it's not like reading Finnegan's Wake.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 1:34:01 pm PDT #3584 of 28199
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Like the infamous line in Neuromancer about the sky being like a dead TV channel (meaning gray and staticky) and the world quickly shooting by that with widespread cable use so that the association would be with a blank blue screen instead.

I love this, because the passage of time and technology has landed us with a completely different yet more plausible visualisation of that line.

Although I do seem to recall having seen the husky staticky "no signal" screen again recently.


Liese S. - Aug 07, 2007 1:39:24 pm PDT #3585 of 28199
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I think about this fairly frequently. With our current setup, when the tv comes on, it is static.


Jessica - Aug 07, 2007 1:45:01 pm PDT #3586 of 28199
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Like the infamous line in Neuromancer about the sky being like a dead TV channel (meaning gray and staticky) and the world quickly shooting by that with widespread cable use so that the association would be with a blank blue screen instead.

Okay, what's the book that referenced this explicitly by having the sky be like a dead TV channel, meaning it was a perfectly clear blue day? Was it another Gibson novel? This is going to drive me crazy now...


DavidS - Aug 07, 2007 1:52:32 pm PDT #3587 of 28199
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's at the beginning of Neuromancer, Jess.

eta: Oh, you're asking something else.

Cool thing: Difference Engine made out of Legos.


Jessica - Aug 07, 2007 1:56:44 pm PDT #3588 of 28199
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

No, Neuromancer was the original -- dead TV = gray. Neil Gaiman repurposed the line (dead TV = blue) for the beginning of Neverwhere. (Thank you, Google!)

[eta - here's his blog entry about it (scroll down to the first email):

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Polter-Cow - Aug 07, 2007 1:58:01 pm PDT #3589 of 28199
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My dead TV = black.


DavidS - Aug 07, 2007 2:09:43 pm PDT #3590 of 28199
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Here's the original book pitch for Spook Country.

Very different from the book that came out, but still has some spoilers.

Fascinating though.


Hayden - Aug 07, 2007 2:09:57 pm PDT #3591 of 28199
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I didn't like Snow Crash, but Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle were delightful.