Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Jun 22, 2007 11:20:39 am PDT #2974 of 28195
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"Twee" sounds so derogatory when people use it.

That's because... it is? I mean, when I call something "twee" usually I mean it belongs in a Miss Marple mystery. Not in a good way.

See, snotty punk rock criticism can be fun!

Or just... snotty. As you know, Bob, my foot resides in the asses of people who get shirty with the general public for being the general public.

One might easily conclude this after perusing the vapid "Letter From the Clearys," the pompous and bloodless "Sur," or the Abbess-phone-home fakery of "Souls."

Ironically, at least two of these three are not just award-winners -- and by female authors --, but they're the two SF short stories I can think of most commonly anthologized in non-SF collections. ("Sur" is in the Norton Anthology of Women's Fiction, e.g.) But the fact this writer goes out of his way to call out two of the more highly-regarded female authors (Le Guin and Willis; I don't know who wrote "Souls") -- a bit suspect, right there on its face.

Suddenly, perhaps out of sheer frustration, fantasy has movement and color again.

Uh huh. I think I have a new social axiom: Any literary movement that requires a manifesto receives my foot in its ass.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2007 11:29:01 am PDT #2975 of 28195
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Contrary to popular misconception

This (my whole misunderdstanding of cyberpunk, not the above statement) is one of those examples where I start to think I'm smart and well-read and urbane, and then I wander amongst the Buffistae and realize that no, I'm really just a brain stem in a jar.

t edit Suddenly I can't even remember what "urbane" means! Maybe it wasn't the word I wanted to use after all!

[begin brain stem communication] blink...breathe...blink...breathe...blink...breathe....


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2007 11:32:52 am PDT #2976 of 28195
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think "urbane" is right. I THINK.

I join you in brainstemness, Tep.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2007 11:33:46 am PDT #2977 of 28195
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I join you in brainstemness, Tep.

blink blink


Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 12:13:57 pm PDT #2978 of 28195
brillig

insect-eating SCA freaks

Gosh, thanks, I love being sneered at by people on a "my intelligentsia is hipper than yours" kick.

Any literary movement that requires a manifesto receives my foot in its ass.

I'm with Nutty.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 12:45:24 pm PDT #2979 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What? No love for vituperation and poison pens? How oppressively moderate.


Atropa - Jun 22, 2007 12:52:49 pm PDT #2980 of 28195
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What? No love for vituperation and poison pens? How oppressively moderate.

I have some love, but I think that The Manifesto veered too far into "Goddamn, we are hipper and smarter than you, nyah-nyah nyah-nyah" posturing.


Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 12:54:51 pm PDT #2981 of 28195
brillig

How oppressively moderate

How self-consciously avant garde.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2007 12:59:52 pm PDT #2982 of 28195
I look more rad than Lutheranism

How self-consciously avant garde.

t yet more connielove


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 1:12:52 pm PDT #2983 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How self-consciously avant garde.

That's redundant, I think. The avant garde is always going to posit itself against something else, which requires some self consciousness. You can't be the leading edge of something without knowing where the previous boundaries were and critique them.

I prefer civil discourse among friends, but I think that in the world of ideas it's better to make your claim boldly and make enemies. Incremental changes can be stultifying and frequently things need to be shaken up and challenged. Orthodoxies get set and moderation really does become oppressive.