I can handle the Oz Full Monty. I mean, not 'handle' handle.

Xander ,'Help'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 9:04:40 am PDT #2948 of 28195
brillig

parkour

???


Kathy A - Jun 22, 2007 9:05:34 am PDT #2949 of 28195
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

That's the free-running that's on view in the latest Bond flick.


Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 9:06:56 am PDT #2950 of 28195
brillig

I'm guessing "free-running" doesn't involves running shoes.


Nutty - Jun 22, 2007 9:08:27 am PDT #2951 of 28195
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think what might help is if we formally defined cyberpunk as:

n. An attitude characterized by radical re-use of existing tools, machines, and business processes, with the express purpose of undermining, showing up, or otherwise exploiting weaknesses in the dominant paradigm. Etymology relates to the most famous practice of cyberpunk, i.e. computer hacking.

Whereas steampunk strikes me as an aesthetic rather than an attitude; and its etymology is pretty plainly modeled on cyberpunk.

I, for one, am ready for no words to suffix themselves with "punk" and become cooler thereby. It is so DONE, people.


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2007 9:11:16 am PDT #2952 of 28195
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's so etymopunk.


Connie Neil - Jun 22, 2007 9:12:11 am PDT #2953 of 28195
brillig

etymopunk.

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"


Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2007 9:16:34 am PDT #2954 of 28195
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

No, but it would be redundant.

There's also splatterpunk, which I'd define as extreme horror fiction.


P.M. Marc - Jun 22, 2007 9:18:38 am PDT #2955 of 28195
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

Emo was originally a subgenre of punk rooted in hardcore.

Hec, I am certain, can go on at length. And may already have in a crosspost.


Atropa - Jun 22, 2007 9:21:26 am PDT #2956 of 28195
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Whereas steampunk strikes me as an aesthetic rather than an attitude; and its etymology is pretty plainly modeled on cyberpunk.

There have been some pretty heated debates on steampunk communities about about how the steampunk aesthetic (translated: fashion) seems to be eclipsing all other aspects of steampunk. (The funniest comment I've seen about that so far was someone getting upset that steampunk seems to be turning into The New Goth, and that is WRONG!!11!!)

There's also splatterpunk, which I'd define as extreme horror fiction.

Yep. But the term is kinda considered an in-joke by the authors who were usually labled with it.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 9:22:10 am PDT #2957 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I, for one, am ready for no words to suffix themselves with "punk" and become cooler thereby. It is so DONE, people.

One of the cosmic ironies is that hip hop was far more cyberpunk than punk ever was. Sampling is cyberpunk in action.

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

You don't think Johnny Rotten was emotional? Hatred is an emotion.

Also, knowing one of the early participants in "emocore" (Lars Hanson, drummer in Embrace) I can vouch that the coinage was originally intended as a joke. The local DC hardcore punks were ironically indulging the same suffix abuse that Nutty objects to, except adding "-core" to everything instead of "-punk."