But she was naked! And all... articulate!

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Katerina Bee - Feb 27, 2006 7:12:44 am PST #29 of 27265
Herding cats for fun

Oh dear. I spent the night hoping that the Buffistas were wrong about Octavia Butler's death. It was much too soon. She was on the short list of authors whose new books I would instantly buy in hardback, even when that meant eating Ramen for a week.

I just finished her latest (last) book, Fledgling, a vampire novel that isn't quite "Patternmaster Redux" although the main character in each case is a fantastically powerful young black woman with a flock of loyal symbionts.

I shall metaphorically remove my hat and observe a moment of silence while I give thanks for all the pleasure I've gotten from reading her work.


Jessica - Feb 27, 2006 11:52:30 am PST #30 of 27265
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

This is interesting. I'm curious about how solid their claim is, though -- I don't know anything about UK copyright law, but my feeling is that if a novel uses information from a nonfiction book as its basis, isn't that considered research, not plaigiarism?


sumi - Feb 27, 2006 11:58:12 am PST #31 of 27265
Art Crawl!!!

I would have thought so!


Nutty - Feb 27, 2006 12:15:05 pm PST #32 of 27265
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If Brown provably lifted the detailed plot from somebody else's work, then it would be infringement (plagiarism isn't actually a legal thing). But if Brown is just a huge hack, who had the same fricken idea as everybody else on the planet, NSM.

Both books contain the idea Jesus had a child.

If that's the extent of the claim, then these authors need to sue Kevin Smith for Dogma as well.

I know there have been legit infringement cases won -- some screenplays in the 80s, e.g. -- but I imagine it's incredibly hard to prove that somebody actually did have and read your book, especially when the content is fairly common material.


Aims - Feb 27, 2006 12:18:45 pm PST #33 of 27265
Shit's all sorts of different now.

See, then they'd lose against Kevin Smith cause I don't see him reading anything that isn't his own work, anyway.

Unless it had pictures.


JZ - Feb 27, 2006 12:23:00 pm PST #34 of 27265
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Wait, what did I miss in Dogma? I thought the Jesus lineage in that movie was through His sibs. Am I on teh crack?


Jessica - Feb 27, 2006 12:23:27 pm PST #35 of 27265
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

The two books are similar enough that every time someone wants to do a TV special on The Da Vinci Code, they come to us for clips from The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. (The TV doc based on the book.)

If Brown provably lifted the detailed plot from somebody else's work, then it would be infringement

But nonfiction books don't have plots, is my issue. I just don't see how their claim has any merit.


Nutty - Feb 27, 2006 12:25:34 pm PST #36 of 27265
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I thought the Jesus lineage in that movie was through His sibs. Am I on teh crack?

Possibly, or else I am. The Last Scion isn't, like, the scion of the big dude himself? I think it would be a big letdown to be the last scion of the big dude's second cousin. Not even on the divine side!


JZ - Feb 27, 2006 12:27:53 pm PST #37 of 27265
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm pretty sure the LS is just a S of the Big Dude's family bloodline. I think. I really need to get my special edition DVD back from my mom.


ChiKat - Feb 27, 2006 12:41:38 pm PST #38 of 27265
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

JZ, you remember as I do, but then, we could both be wrong.

connie, if you liked that book, you might like some stuff by Marcus Borg, specifically Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time which goes into historical Jesus vs. theological Jesus (keeping in mind that Borg is a Christian). He goes into a lot of literary criticism stuff, too.