What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


juliana - Sep 20, 2022 8:49:40 am PDT #27437 of 27454
Tell me the ghost in the machine is real

Does it seem sinister that Lucy’s mother, Harker’s employer and mentor, and Holmwood Sr all die more or less at the same time? Another thing I didn’t really notice before.

Oh, very much so. That really got brought home in this serialized re-reading for me, too. It's very much more "creeping horror" which is so perfect for Dracula.

Ohhhhh, Nona the Ninth, y'all. I'm just in love with her so much, and with TazMuir's layering. It's so great.

Although I did have to go back and re-read The Hands of the Emperor for some hopeful post-collapse (because that is what The Fall was) fiction after that.


-t - Sep 20, 2022 8:55:13 am PDT #27438 of 27454
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

This read is at it happens thing is delightful, I have to say.

I still haven't started Nona, I only got as far as making sure I have Gideon and Harrow ready to listen to...it's too bad I can't just devote myself to that 24/7, I think I'm going to want to

BTW, juliana, there's a new young Kip novella or something out - Those Who Hold the Fire


juliana - Sep 20, 2022 8:58:45 am PDT #27439 of 27454
Tell me the ghost in the machine is real

Thanks, -t! I did already read it, between that & Buru Tovo's story, I just want to wrap young Kip up and tell him everything's going to be okay.


-t - Sep 20, 2022 9:35:18 am PDT #27440 of 27454
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Right? It made me want to read Hands again, too


Consuela - Sep 20, 2022 12:54:24 pm PDT #27441 of 27454
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Although I did have to go back and re-read The Hands of the Emperor for some hopeful post-collapse (because that is what The Fall was) fiction after that.

So have you read The Return of Fitzroy Angursell? It is less annoying than THotE w/rt communication problems, and the story moves along at a more brisk pace.

It is followed by The Redoubtable Pali Avramapul, which is the story about the woman scholar that came to study the Emperor's archives and Kip realized she was someone important to the Emperor. I enjoyed that as well, just finished it yesterday, but it does have a great deal of "why don't these people just fucking TALK TO ONE ANOTHER" going on. Still fun, though.

And it explains more than any of the other novels about the Fall of Astandalas and what the deal was with Fitzroy and the Red Company.

I'm getting to the point where I might need a wiki for this universe. There's a LOT of backstory. Plus all these different planets/worlds/whatever.


meara - Sep 20, 2022 3:23:15 pm PDT #27442 of 27454

I definitely need a wiki, or at least a clear timeline of when all the books and short stories fall? But I do like.


-t - Sep 20, 2022 3:47:26 pm PDT #27443 of 27454
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's tricky with how time flows differently in different places, though. I do not fully have a handle on that, but I like how it is playing out so far


juliana - Sep 20, 2022 4:24:43 pm PDT #27444 of 27454
Tell me the ghost in the machine is real

Yes, I've read all of it so far! I enjoyed Pali on the second read. The first time I read it I was too offended at her not liking Kip! How dare!

I think the HotE Discord I'm on is building a timeline. I'll have to check.


Consuela - Sep 20, 2022 6:05:26 pm PDT #27445 of 27454
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

How dare!

I know! OTOH these novels are very reliant on people not understanding each other because of poor communication. So that tracks pretty well. I think that over time Pali could grow to like Kip, because she's a scholar and so is he.


juliana - Sep 22, 2022 11:33:37 am PDT #27446 of 27454
Tell me the ghost in the machine is real

I think that over time Pali could grow to like Kip, because she's a scholar and so is he.

Oh, definitely, He absolutely would appreciate her ability to throw dry commentary in, too.