Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


-t - Sep 20, 2022 9:35:18 am PDT #27440 of 28067
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Right? It made me want to read Hands again, too


Consuela - Sep 20, 2022 12:54:24 pm PDT #27441 of 28067
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Although I did have to go back and re-read The Hands of the Emperor for some hopeful post-collapse (because that is what The Fall was) fiction after that.

So have you read The Return of Fitzroy Angursell? It is less annoying than THotE w/rt communication problems, and the story moves along at a more brisk pace.

It is followed by The Redoubtable Pali Avramapul, which is the story about the woman scholar that came to study the Emperor's archives and Kip realized she was someone important to the Emperor. I enjoyed that as well, just finished it yesterday, but it does have a great deal of "why don't these people just fucking TALK TO ONE ANOTHER" going on. Still fun, though.

And it explains more than any of the other novels about the Fall of Astandalas and what the deal was with Fitzroy and the Red Company.

I'm getting to the point where I might need a wiki for this universe. There's a LOT of backstory. Plus all these different planets/worlds/whatever.


meara - Sep 20, 2022 3:23:15 pm PDT #27442 of 28067

I definitely need a wiki, or at least a clear timeline of when all the books and short stories fall? But I do like.


-t - Sep 20, 2022 3:47:26 pm PDT #27443 of 28067
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's tricky with how time flows differently in different places, though. I do not fully have a handle on that, but I like how it is playing out so far


juliana - Sep 20, 2022 4:24:43 pm PDT #27444 of 28067
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Yes, I've read all of it so far! I enjoyed Pali on the second read. The first time I read it I was too offended at her not liking Kip! How dare!

I think the HotE Discord I'm on is building a timeline. I'll have to check.


Consuela - Sep 20, 2022 6:05:26 pm PDT #27445 of 28067
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

How dare!

I know! OTOH these novels are very reliant on people not understanding each other because of poor communication. So that tracks pretty well. I think that over time Pali could grow to like Kip, because she's a scholar and so is he.


juliana - Sep 22, 2022 11:33:37 am PDT #27446 of 28067
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I think that over time Pali could grow to like Kip, because she's a scholar and so is he.

Oh, definitely, He absolutely would appreciate her ability to throw dry commentary in, too.


Consuela - Sep 25, 2022 10:23:52 pm PDT #27447 of 28067
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I splurged this week on Kate Beaton's new book Ducks. I haven't finished it yet: it's pretty long and quite heavy in its subject matter. But it's SO GOOD. She's so impressive as an artist and writer.

Anyway, here's a link to a New Yorker review: [link]


DavidS - Sep 25, 2022 10:54:36 pm PDT #27448 of 28067
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I splurged this week on Kate Beaton's new book Ducks. I haven't finished it yet: it's pretty long and quite heavy in its subject matter. But it's SO GOOD. She's so impressive as an artist and writer.

I also bought it and read it this last week. I agree with your assessment! It is soooo good. It's sort of a hard sell, especially if you're coming to it from Hark, A Vagrant. It's not funny with the Bronte jokes.

But it does completely immerse you into that world, and it's a world I do kind of know from memory (having lived in very northern Canada for 18 months of my childhood) and also experience doing construction work out of college. Those very masculine realms and the ingrained sexism (and racism) and culture.

It's just so rich and artfully done that it takes you to places you haven't been and makes you feel them. You will not just know but understand more about the world because she's so good at creating her experience. You can read about capitalism, or environmentalism or sexism but she parses all those complex liminal spaces and you understand the weight of things. Their context. Their human value and cost.

It's really masterful. It did remind me a bit of Alison Bechdel's Fun Home. Very different in subject but similarly adept at catching ambiguities.


Tom Scola - Sep 26, 2022 5:17:23 am PDT #27449 of 28067
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

On top of everything else, it’s just a gorgeously-made book: The dust jacket, the leafing, the paper stock. It was well worth the 40 bucks to me.