You know, it's funny. We went to war never looking to come back, but it's the real world I couldn't survive.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Steph L. - Apr 06, 2015 4:48:07 am PDT #23129 of 28342
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Social Justice Warrior as a pejorative, in my experience, is the kind of person who will take every chance to unpack a person's behavior in search of privilege and cultural exploitation and everything else, to an excessive degree.

Where have you encountered these people? That's not accusatory; I'm genuinely curious, because I spend way too much time on the internet, and haven't come across people who are deliberately looking for chances to bust on people for privileged opinions/behavior.

(As an example, when K.T. Bradford brought up the idea of not reading straight white cis male authors for a year, the internet lost its damn mind. To my eye, all she was saying was, hey, there are a LOT of authors who don't get the kind of exposure that straight white cis male authors get, and making it a point to seek out those authors can be pretty rewarding. But people acted as though she was saying we should go kill Neil Gaiman and Jim Butcher, and she was going to personally show up at your house and burn all your Game of Thrones and Discworld books.)


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 4:54:43 am PDT #23130 of 28342
brillig

Primarily I've run across them on Facebook, piling on in comments on various stories. They seemed eager to prove their activist street cred by criticizing things like any possible use of any pattern or design that could be interpreted as Native American or the native culture of any area, even a generic pattern on a generic shirt. I think the argument was If you're not descended from them, you shouldn't wear it. I didn't make a note of them, as I don't make a point of following those stories and I moved on.


Steph L. - Apr 06, 2015 5:00:15 am PDT #23131 of 28342
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ah. I use FB to socialize with people I already know, so I do miss all of those sorts of comments.

I don't think those are bad conversations to have, but I also don't think FB is the best place for them, because FB really isn't ideal for what ought to be a nuanced conversation. It seems to turn everything into a soapbox rather than an actual discussion.


hippocampus - Apr 06, 2015 5:46:59 am PDT #23132 of 28342
not your mom's socks.

not really here because of deadlines and family, but Charlie Stross has some interesting extracurricular reading: [link]

ALL trigger warnings apply.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 06, 2015 7:36:36 am PDT #23133 of 28342
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Where have you encountered these people? That's not accusatory; I'm genuinely curious, because I spend way too much time on the internet, and haven't come across people who are deliberately looking for chances to bust on people for privileged opinions/behavior.

I've run into it on Scans Daily, the Backlot (formerly AfterElton) and in Teen Wolf fandom. The basic intention of being more sensitive to minority issues is good, but some people take things too far and characterize any disagreement with a particular point they make as racist/misogynistic/homophobic oppression by the PatriarchyTM.


Dana - Apr 06, 2015 8:13:23 am PDT #23134 of 28342
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

This is yet another time I really wish I had the magical power of dropping cartoon anvils on people's heads.


Calli - Apr 06, 2015 8:25:31 am PDT #23135 of 28342
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Where have you encountered these people? That's not accusatory; I'm genuinely curious, because I spend way too much time on the internet, and haven't come across people who are deliberately looking for chances to bust on people for privileged opinions/behavior.

Tumblr. My favorite was the one where you shouldn't cosplay with toe shoes because a) you'd probably turn an ankle if you didn't know how to walk in them* and b) because ballet dancers had spent years of practice earning them and how dare you mock their efforts and pain! You wouldn't wear a gi if you hadn't studied martial arts**! You wouldn't wear a military uniform if you hadn't served**! How dare you appropriate dance culture!

/*Probably valid. Although I've turned ankles while walking on a dry sidewalk in sneakers, so whatevs.

/**The poster has clearly never been to a Con. Or she/he/ze is making unwarranted assumptions about a quarter of the people there, especially ones that have a Stargate presence.


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 8:29:47 am PDT #23136 of 28342
brillig

I think there's a lot of free floating outrage in these people, and they're looking for something to hook it too. Someone they admire comes out against something, so they decide to join them with outrage set to 11 and they make everyone else look bad.


WindSparrow - Apr 06, 2015 8:46:01 am PDT #23137 of 28342
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

It all depends on context. I've the pejoritive "Social Justice Warrior" more used by white males with their outrage set to 12. Of course, the context that I have seen it, is on Twitter where I follow a number of the protestors from Fergussen. So in my mind it is right up there with MRAs' use of "feminazi".


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 8:51:48 am PDT #23138 of 28342
brillig

I've seen it used as a pejorative from all sorts.