Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Calli - Apr 06, 2015 8:25:31 am PDT #23135 of 28359
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Where have you encountered these people? That's not accusatory; I'm genuinely curious, because I spend way too much time on the internet, and haven't come across people who are deliberately looking for chances to bust on people for privileged opinions/behavior.

Tumblr. My favorite was the one where you shouldn't cosplay with toe shoes because a) you'd probably turn an ankle if you didn't know how to walk in them* and b) because ballet dancers had spent years of practice earning them and how dare you mock their efforts and pain! You wouldn't wear a gi if you hadn't studied martial arts**! You wouldn't wear a military uniform if you hadn't served**! How dare you appropriate dance culture!

/*Probably valid. Although I've turned ankles while walking on a dry sidewalk in sneakers, so whatevs.

/**The poster has clearly never been to a Con. Or she/he/ze is making unwarranted assumptions about a quarter of the people there, especially ones that have a Stargate presence.


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 8:29:47 am PDT #23136 of 28359
brillig

I think there's a lot of free floating outrage in these people, and they're looking for something to hook it too. Someone they admire comes out against something, so they decide to join them with outrage set to 11 and they make everyone else look bad.


WindSparrow - Apr 06, 2015 8:46:01 am PDT #23137 of 28359
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

It all depends on context. I've the pejoritive "Social Justice Warrior" more used by white males with their outrage set to 12. Of course, the context that I have seen it, is on Twitter where I follow a number of the protestors from Fergussen. So in my mind it is right up there with MRAs' use of "feminazi".


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 8:51:48 am PDT #23138 of 28359
brillig

I've seen it used as a pejorative from all sorts.


Tom Scola - Apr 06, 2015 8:58:19 am PDT #23139 of 28359
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's all pretty similar to what I experienced in the late 80s-early 90s. I originally heard the term "politically correct" as something that people on the left used to ironically comment on those more extreme than themselves, but then right-wingers like Rush Limbaugh started using it to bludgeon everyone on the left indiscriminately.


Calli - Apr 06, 2015 9:02:35 am PDT #23140 of 28359
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

At least nine times out of 10 someone being called a SJW means I'll probably enjoy or at least learn from their feed. For example, the extent of extrajudicial killings of African American people in the US really isn't reflected on the news. SJWs made me aware of it (with cites). It matters. I'm glad I know, and I wish I could do more than hit "reblog".

And then there are the others. I remember a debate (as much as one can debate on Tumblr--I hate the conversation mechanism as much as I love the gifs) about a woman who dressed in traditional Indian (subcontinent) garb for a wedding. Someone saw the pictures and called her out for appropriating Indian culture. It turned out the bride in question was Indian, just with very light skin and eyes, and the person calling her out was a white American. The conversation grew pretty heated.


Steph L. - Apr 06, 2015 9:03:41 am PDT #23141 of 28359
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Kind of the way "feminist" was (still is) used to mean something horrible, instead of someone who would just like to be treated fairly?


Burrell - Apr 06, 2015 9:05:23 am PDT #23142 of 28359
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Tom nails it. Social justice warrior is used the way 'politically correct" used to be used. Ugh.

Folks on the left are eejits for leaving themselves open for the same rhetorical maneuvers again and again.


Burrell - Apr 06, 2015 9:11:34 am PDT #23143 of 28359
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Kind of the way "feminist" was (still is) used to mean something horrible, instead of someone who would just like to be treated fairly?

Except that's more like the way some folks use "liberal" like it's an insult when really it's just a designation. I feel like feminist and liberal are both completely valid terms and we just need to own them as actually being the correct terms and refuse to let the right define them away as useless insults that no good-thinking people would want to be associated with.


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2015 9:14:54 am PDT #23144 of 28359
brillig

Except it's not just used by rightists, though they're the most common users. I think the phrase's appearance is worth at least a second or two's consideration that the target may be one of those over-the-top activists that always get put on the news to make the whole notion look bad. Just because they're a cliché does not mean they're not real and something to take into account. The audience is not just the people who think like you, it's the undecided folks in "middle America" who don't have the same resources for education.