Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Ginger - Jan 20, 2014 12:31:55 pm PST #21990 of 28358
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My feeling about Allegiant is that Roth envisioned a story about people raised to suppress all but one aspect of personality and what happens when someone moves from one faction to another. When she tried to come up with how that society was created, she started digging herself into a hole and then forgot the first rule of holes.

The problem with the dual narration is that the voices sound exactly the same. Absent phrases like "I watched Tris leave," I challenge anyone to tell the difference.

More spoilery: The genetic purity folks are supposedly trying to increase the number of genetically pure people, as well as finding a social structure that the genetically damaged can live in without destroying themselves. It makes absolutely no sense to leave the Divergent in the experiment, where they may well get killed and never pass on their precious genes. Also, they're not going to get Divergents from the gene fairy. The only way they could show up in a population is if the original pure genes were recessive.

Also, after a devastating war, they manage to put a chain-link fence around a big chunk of Chicago and the people stay inside just because they're told it's dangerous out there? The Dauntless would be vaulting that fence every day and twice on Sunday.

Then there's the ham-handed storyline about the genetically damaged being second-class citizens.

In short, "If you want to send a message, call Western Union."


Jesse - Jan 20, 2014 12:50:08 pm PST #21991 of 28358
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There are comparisons to Gone Baby Gone, but aside for there being a husband and wife perspective, the comparisons are not particularly apt.

I haven't read The Silent Wife, but do you mean Gone Girl?


le nubian - Jan 20, 2014 3:41:48 pm PST #21992 of 28358
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Oh Jesse,

of course I mean Gone Girl.

Ginger,

I echo your frustrations. In addition to what you typed, I think there is a very interesting story about how power corrupts and the role of nature vs nurture. I was pretty struck when it was revealed in the 2nd (?) book that Amity was drugging its citizens regularly to maintain order. While the threat of living outside the margins of society was imposed to keep all factions in line. The dominance, control, oppression themes had interesting possibilities that fell by the wayside in the 3rd book .


Steph L. - Jan 20, 2014 4:49:18 pm PST #21993 of 28358
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

le nubian, I totally agree with you on Amity in the second book. I think I actually re-read that part, because my brain went, "What, WHAT do they do???"


sumi - Jan 23, 2014 4:44:42 am PST #21994 of 28358
Art Crawl!!!

Random interruption to post this link to a group of prints re-imagining Game of Thrones as Japanese Woodblock prints.


-t - Jan 23, 2014 1:50:37 pm PST #21995 of 28358
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Those are wonderful!


Frankenbuddha - Jan 24, 2014 4:27:10 am PST #21996 of 28358
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Three sent to your profile addy. You just click on the attachments and save them and they'll play on anything that runs an MP3.

Meant to reply sooner, but I'm behind on my profile address. I got two emails (they ended up in my junk folder & it took me a while to parse the sender name). Does on of them have two recordings? Haven't had a chance to listen yet, but thanks a lot!


sumi - Jan 29, 2014 7:11:19 am PST #21997 of 28358
Art Crawl!!!

-t - I absolutely want prints of the prints. . .


-t - Jan 29, 2014 7:50:49 am PST #21998 of 28358
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They're really evocative of the source material! Very cool.


Amy - Jan 29, 2014 4:16:29 pm PST #21999 of 28358
Because books.

Janey Dailey died.