I also am pretty sure that I did not understand that his "injury" resulted in impotence. I was never very good at getting the coded references to sex in books. Or really coded references to anything. I tended to take coded things at their face value, and explicit things as metaphor ( see how I missed the woman drowning herself in Kate chop ins Awakenings)
Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.
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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Sophia Brooks - Jan 21, 2013 3:28:46 pm PST #20277 of 28348
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Gris - Jan 21, 2013 3:32:14 pm PST #20278 of 28348
Hey. New board.
The Sun Also Rises has all that drinking
It does have that.
I also am pretty sure that I did not understand that his "injury" resulted in impotence.
I figured that out after the first oblique reference, and it was cemented for me in the second. So about 1/4 of the way through the book, I understood that. Then it went absolutely nowhere. The ending of the book is "Isn't it tragic that this woman I love and I will never be together because she really likes sex and I can't have it with her" which is exactly the theme of the book at 1/4 of the way through.
Typo Boy - Jan 21, 2013 3:34:26 pm PST #20279 of 28348
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I love The Old Man and the Sea. Does anyone who hates that like any Hemingway novel? I can imagine hating it and liking some Hemingway short stories...
Sophia Brooks - Jan 21, 2013 3:37:52 pm PST #20280 of 28348
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I am so happy I figured out how to read white font on my phone!!!
Keeping in mind that I read this book once, in 1994... I thought that he was being noble and not having sex, because he did not want to saddle the woman he loved with a husband who was injured (not in the penis). Which possibly made the book better
le nubian - Jan 21, 2013 3:38:55 pm PST #20281 of 28348
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
well, truth be told the ending is a bit different than that, right?
she claims, Gris, the same as you did, but the narrator's response is "isn't it pretty to think so." Acknowledging that there were greater barriers to their happiness than that. If such injury had not been done to the main character, I think we are to understand that their relationship still wouldn't have worked out. The two are self-destructive in such a way that would not have produced a solid coupling .
flea - Jan 21, 2013 3:41:48 pm PST #20282 of 28348
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Hemingway to F. Scott Fitzgerald on The Sun Also Rises, proposing a subtitle for the second printing: The Sun Also Rises, Like Your Cock If You Have One.
le nubian - Jan 21, 2013 3:44:45 pm PST #20283 of 28348
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
OMG flea!
flea - Jan 21, 2013 3:47:13 pm PST #20284 of 28348
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He was joking, mostly. Here's an article that mentions it: [link]
le nubian - Jan 21, 2013 3:47:32 pm PST #20285 of 28348
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Gris,
Literature phd Beau says the following about Sun Also Rises:
impotence was symbolic of the age and symbolizes something about war and the modern era. He has not read the book since graduate school, so he is a bit fuzzy on the details.
Sophia Brooks - Jan 21, 2013 3:48:39 pm PST #20286 of 28348
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Typo, I have not read any Hemingway that was not assigned- I read Old Man, The Big Two Hearted River, Hills Like White Elephants, and The Sun Also Rise. The only one I liked was Sun Also Rises. Everything else was of the blah blah blah man pain school to me. I didn't know the word man pain, but because the Steinbeck, Hemingway, Bret Hart, Ted Hughes, Updike and Salinger I ended up with in high school, I just wanted to read something else!