'The Message'
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
I am so happy I figured out how to read white font on my phone!!!
Keeping in mind that I read this book once, in 1994... I thought that he was being noble and not having sex, because he did not want to saddle the woman he loved with a husband who was injured (not in the penis). Which possibly made the book better
well, truth be told the ending is a bit different than that, right?
she claims, Gris, the same as you did, but the narrator's response is "isn't it pretty to think so." Acknowledging that there were greater barriers to their happiness than that. If such injury had not been done to the main character, I think we are to understand that their relationship still wouldn't have worked out. The two are self-destructive in such a way that would not have produced a solid coupling .
Hemingway to F. Scott Fitzgerald on The Sun Also Rises, proposing a subtitle for the second printing: The Sun Also Rises, Like Your Cock If You Have One.
OMG flea!
He was joking, mostly. Here's an article that mentions it: [link]
Gris,
Literature phd Beau says the following about Sun Also Rises:
impotence was symbolic of the age and symbolizes something about war and the modern era. He has not read the book since graduate school, so he is a bit fuzzy on the details.
Typo, I have not read any Hemingway that was not assigned- I read Old Man, The Big Two Hearted River, Hills Like White Elephants, and The Sun Also Rise. The only one I liked was Sun Also Rises. Everything else was of the blah blah blah man pain school to me. I didn't know the word man pain, but because the Steinbeck, Hemingway, Bret Hart, Ted Hughes, Updike and Salinger I ended up with in high school, I just wanted to read something else!
I know I read Old Man and the Sea. I think I read the whole thing, I may have started skimming at some point. All I remember about it is flipping through it and thinking "really there's still more". Which looking at a synopsis of the story must have been my reaction to all the sharks.
Oh, and I forgot the Fitzgerald. Plus my mother liked Henry Miller.
It is sort of coming back to me, but isn't the inevitability of them not working out and the relentlessness of time beating on cf Gatsby what is referenced by the title bible verse
Turn turn turn. It wasn't the season
but the narrator's response is "isn't it pretty to think so."
True. And maybe that has some power. Still, it's a lot of then-I-went-fishing-and-then-there-were-bullfights-and-then-we-got-drunk to get to that. There are moments where he literally writes "And then... . And then... . After that .... And after that..." It's like the plot summary of a boring movie, with random bull-gorings that are described so passionlessly they give me slow-blinks. Which is maybe the point, to show how disconnected blah-dee-blah-blah but that doesn't make it more interesting. At least to me. I would like an arc.