Hands! Hands in new places!

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


sj - Sep 21, 2012 4:15:07 am PDT #19770 of 28344
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

You know, I must be indoctrinated, because I can't really think of any book that is not, at the heart "miserable things happen to be" that is also something you would teach in a high school classroom that would appeal to both boys and girls. But I like Thomas Hardy, so what do I know?

Yeah, I really can't think of much either other than Shakespeare's Comedies, in which miserable things happen to people, but it happens to be funny at the time, and the story ends happy. Mostly I think miserable things happening to people is what makes for compelling literature.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 21, 2012 4:18:02 am PDT #19771 of 28344
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The worst thing about The Pearl was that I had gotten it mixed up in my head with Scott O'Dell's "The Black Pearl", and thought I was going to be reading something like Island of the Blue Dolphins.

But, I forgot the one I hated the most-- Heart of Darkness. Which I had to read in high school and TWICE in college.

Books I liked- Silas Marner, The Diary of Anne Frank, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, The Scarlet Letter, Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, Black Like Me.


Vonnie K - Sep 21, 2012 4:45:27 am PDT #19772 of 28344
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

We had To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby and... possibly Lord of the Flies, although I might have read that one on my own (I remember liking it though.) Oh! And Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End.


Liese S. - Sep 21, 2012 4:57:03 am PDT #19773 of 28344
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I liked all the dire stuff, but I'm a dire sort of person.


hippocampus - Sep 21, 2012 4:59:28 am PDT #19774 of 28344
not your mom's socks.

This breakout of plot lines in Booker-prize longlist novels is very pretty: [link]


Jessica - Sep 21, 2012 5:13:08 am PDT #19775 of 28344
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't remember most of what I read in high school. I mean, I'm sure if you handed me the list I would remember reading them, but I can't pull that list out of my head.

I know Watership Down and Jane Eyre were in there because I'd already read them on my own by the time they were assigned for class. Catcher in the Rye, obviously, because misery loves company. Oh, Native Son, which I loved. Probably some Shakespeare and short stories? And that random unit on The Bible As Literature, i.e. Make Sure The Heathens Can Understand The Bible References In All The Other Books We're Going To Read.


le nubian - Sep 21, 2012 6:11:40 am PDT #19776 of 28344
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Oh, I missed a couple of books from jr hs:

The Sun Also Rises and The Crucible.

We read To Kill A Mockingbird in 8th grade! My mother always thought that was way too young to read that book.

Years later, I have to agree.


flea - Sep 21, 2012 6:22:56 am PDT #19777 of 28344
information libertarian

I an currently the de facto librarian at my kids' school library, and it has all sorts of issues I have never dealt with as a professional librarian for college students. The big one is, figuring out which books in our donations are appropriate for the kids in the school. It's a K-6 school, but the 3rd-6th graders are gifted, and many of them are really excellent readers. We got boxes and boxes of ARCs from a local bookstore (woot!) but a bunch of them are YA, ranging from 12-up to 15-up recommendations on the covers. So I am setting them aside and need to figure out which are appropriate for 6th graders and which are not. It's a huge minefield (with parent viewpoints all over the map) that I have no training for (but public/school librarians do)! Also, my own kid is only 9, and there was very little YA when I was a kid (mostly those "my friend died of cancer" books and Forever by Judy Blume.) Argh. It would be helpful if I read/liked YA, but I do not.

We do already have copies of the Hunger Games trilogy and the kids are VERY interested in it, and most of them, including 4th and 5th graders, tell me they have already read it and/or seen the movie. But at least I know what that book is about and the issues in it.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2012 6:49:08 am PDT #19778 of 28344
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

how people in marginalized communities internalize majority culture views (in this novel, primarily about beauty and color) so deeply that the community begins to cannibalize its own

How can internalising the American ideal of beauty to the extreme which Pecola did *not* mean racism is bad?

if students reach the end of that book and don't understand that all of these characters are African American and/or mixed race, they've missed the entire book

There is no requirement for white people in a story about racism. Although there *are* white people in it, they could have been cut out, and it'd have been the same quantum level of horrifyingly racist.


Liese S. - Sep 21, 2012 7:07:12 am PDT #19779 of 28344
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I read adult books from the time I discovered they wouldn't kick me out of that section at the library, so I am no help for appropriateness. I will say that reading age-inappropriate stuff did not scar my (conservative Christian sheltered) young self, it just mostly went over my head, or I squirreled it away for future investigation. I did revisit some of those books later, and they were revelatory, let me tell you.