Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Amy - May 22, 2012 2:39:07 pm PDT #18897 of 28333
Because books.

Amy, I consulted the most omnivorous reader of mysteries and fantasy I know

Thanks, Ginger. And thanks to you, too, Calli!

Are there not assumed to be books which have sex in them in public libraries, or is it just that no one's supposed to admit they exist?

Henry Miller, anyone?

The whole issue is so absurd. There are scores of erotic books out there, and many of them have been in libraries for years. I think the press on this particular book led a lot of women who might have otherwise to give it a try, though. Some of the quotes from readers (of Grey) make it sound like they'd never considered a book so graphically sexual before.

It fries me in particular, because every house out there has been publishing, if not hardcore erotica, at least erotic romance for YEARS now. Hello? Someone was buying them.


sumi - May 23, 2012 4:31:24 am PDT #18898 of 28333
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with Naomi Novik over on Librarything. (And I've just realized that I'm behind on the Temeraire series AGAIN.)


Fred Pete - May 23, 2012 4:44:18 am PDT #18899 of 28333
Ann, that's a ferret.

The novel with sex scenes is hardly new. When I was a teenager, our public library had a sizable assortment of popular novels of the day. And at least in the '70s, a number of best-sellers had sex scenes that would have made Jacqueline Susann blush. (Harold Robbins comes to mind.) (And the librarians never hassled me about checking out his books when I was 16-17.)

And I think I've mentioned that I learned a fair bit about sex when I read The Godfather, which I'd checked out of a school library in 8th grade.


hippocampus - May 23, 2012 9:56:32 am PDT #18900 of 28333
not your mom's socks.

Is this where the Scalzi LCD discussion lived? I can't remember -

Erin Hoffman rebuts: [link]


chrismg - May 23, 2012 10:44:14 am PDT #18901 of 28333
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Need some help here, folks: Am I interpreting this totally the wrong way round or have I only just noticed the really nasty violence-against-women in Gaiman's "Murder Mysteries"?


§ ita § - May 23, 2012 10:45:25 am PDT #18902 of 28333
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that argument strengthens itself by virtue of being pretty much unreadable to me. If that's what gamers get effortlessly, then they are more of a breed apart than I'd considered, but I think accusing Scalzi of "cultural appropriation" gives the gaming community too much of an effective equivalence, to say, Native Americans, or any actual groups for which I think cultural appropriation is actually a real issue.


Consuela - May 23, 2012 11:02:09 am PDT #18903 of 28333
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think accusing Scalzi of "cultural appropriation" gives the gaming community too much of an effective equivalence, to say, Native Americans, or any actual groups for which I think cultural appropriation is actually a real issue.

Yeah, I thought that was a real stretch.

I also think she over-sold the argument. Gamers are no better at identifying systematic oppression than anyone else. What's that saying about how stupid a man can be if his job requires him not to understand something? I think that applies in this instance, as well: people are very good at not seeing how a system benefits them at the expense of other people, and that certainly includes gamers.

Not to mention the fact that the target of the article was far beyond gamers, just that Scalzi happened to use gaming as a metaphor.


§ ita § - May 23, 2012 11:22:24 am PDT #18904 of 28333
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't know what a "dump stat" was until I asked around, but everything else was really easy to understand. Maybe that's part of her point? That you have to speak to her culture in gamer-specific code, because if regular people can understand...

Which, really, fuck off. It's *English*. I don't see why English speakers should need things made *more* complicated so they can understand. Still, the ultimate goal is increasing comprehension, so I guess-knot yourself up into tangles, if that's what it takes to change a mind or turn on a light bulb.

But, fuck, that's kinda dumb.


Polter-Cow - May 23, 2012 12:04:20 pm PDT #18905 of 28333
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Need some help here, folks: Am I interpreting this totally the wrong way round or have I only just noticed the really nasty violence-against-women in Gaiman's "Murder Mysteries"?

As Gaiman (basically) says in the introduction, there's a reason the title is plural.


DavidS - May 23, 2012 12:34:44 pm PDT #18906 of 28333
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I need some book recs for a high school senior boy who loved Fear and Loathing by Hunter S. Thompson and Confederacy of Dunces.

What else is dark and snarky and anti-authoritarian?