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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


le nubian - Apr 14, 2012 1:51:24 pm PDT #18449 of 28293
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I could be wrong, but I don't think the white-fonted part was in the mini-series. It has been years since I saw it.


Amy - Apr 14, 2012 1:53:06 pm PDT #18450 of 28293
Because books.

I don't remember what they did in the miniseries, Jilli, although I did watch it (but just the once, when it originally aired). That scene was a jaw-dropper when I read it, too -- weren't they all, like, twelve, or something?

That's one of my least favorite books, even though I tore through the first 900 or whatever pages -- the ending was so disappointing and stupid.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2012 1:58:09 pm PDT #18451 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think it's in the miniseries. Here's the plot synopsis of the first half (kid section) in Wikipedia (white fonted):

1. Bill, Beverly, Richie, Eddie, Ben, Stan and Mike, a group of outcasts, form the "Losers Club" (a group of social misfits who meet and form a tight-knit friendship.) Each of the children individually encounter the mysterious, homicidal (mainly children), yet wisecracking and manipulative clown haunting their home town of Derry, Maine. The monster, which the group later collectively names It, usually appears as the thing the child victim most fears before taking the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown. Their separate encounters are later fortified when they all witness Pennywise reach out from a photograph (threatening to kill them) in an album owned by Mike.

2. Spurred by Bill's desire for revenge on It for killing his younger brother Georgie, the Losers resolve to locate It's home in the sewers and destroy the threat to Derry once and for all. Henry Bowers, a psychopathic bully, and two of his friends, Patrick Hockstetter and Belch Huggins, follow the group into the Barrens and into the sewers, in a bid to ambush and kill them as revenge for an earlier rock fight. During their trek through the sewers, Stan is pulled away from the group by Henry and Belch. Henry pulls out a switchblade and Patrick has been ordered to ambush the Seven from another side, but is killed by It through the "deadlights."

3. As the remaining Seven come to the middle of the sewers, they discover Stan is missing. Belch restrains Stan as Henry prepares to kill him with the pocketknife, but It (as the deadlights) bursts through a sewage pipe and sucks Belch in the pipe where he is probably killed while Henry and Stan watch in horror. As It makes its way out of the pipe, Stan flees and Henry's hair instantly turns white from the sight of It's true form. It spares Henry's life and continues searching for Stan.

4. Stan meets up with the Seven and warns them that It's true form has something to do with living white lights that instantly kill anyone who looks directly at them and which is far more reprehensible than Pennywise. They are to avoid looking into It's "deadlights." It vanishes, and smoke fills the chamber. The seven form a circle, although It attempts to distract and break them apart by simultaneously appearing as Georgie, Beverly's father and the werewolf of I Was A Teenage Werewolf . It, in the form of Pennywise, attempts to eat Stan alive, but Eddie stuns It with his asthma inhaler. Beverly cracks the monster's head open with a silver slug fired from a slingshot, revealing the bright "deadlights" underneath. However, before the children can kill, It somersaults through the air and escapes through a drain in the floor. The group grabs "It's" arms, only for the glove to rip off and reveal a larger 3-fingered claw that later disappears through the drain. After arguing and concluding "It" is dead, the group exits the sewers and make a promise to return and fight "It," should it ever return.


Atropa - Apr 14, 2012 2:53:22 pm PDT #18452 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

That's one of my least favorite books, even though I tore through the first 900 or whatever pages -- the ending was so disappointing and stupid.

Yeah, the first 900 pages or so are all sorts of fun. I kind of want to re-read that part, and skip the ending. Of course, I should have thought of this BEFORE I'm about to start a new job, because I know re-reading IT equals no sleep for me.

That scene was a jaw-dropper when I read it, too --

I know! Because yes, they are all about twelve. Because after you and your guy friends have defeated a terrible monster, are lost under the city, and are starting to argue/freak out, the obvious answer that occurs to a TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL is to have sex with all your friends. What? Reading some posts online that try and explain it as Bev choosing empowerment, and reclaiming her sexuality just make me want to punch people. While laughing at them.


Strix - Apr 15, 2012 5:56:45 am PDT #18453 of 28293
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Agreed. I read the book when I was about 14, and I was all like "REALLY? What the hell?"


Fred Pete - Apr 16, 2012 5:23:21 am PDT #18454 of 28293
Ann, that's a ferret.

I was a good bit older (Carrie came out when I was about 14), and my reaction was also, "Huh? Where did THAT come from?"

Incidentally, I'm re-reading Insomnia right now, which takes place in Derry a few years later and looks at the older folks. As you'd expect with King, some characters from It make cameos in Insomnia. Most notably, Mike Hanlon.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2012 5:46:02 am PDT #18455 of 28293
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suppose I could see the development arising from an abused child's reaction to recent horrifying trauma, but no way in hell should it be empowering to Bev or an uplifting, healing experience for all concerned . Like others, that was my "What the hell is King smoking?" moment that threw me out of the narrative. (About a malevolent child-eating clown monster that can alter reality, so it's not like the bar for my suspension of disbelief had been set to gritty and naturalistic!)


Typo Boy - Apr 16, 2012 9:22:12 am PDT #18456 of 28293
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Don't know the timing of this. Was this scene written during King's battle with drugs?


Ginger - Apr 16, 2012 12:14:06 pm PDT #18457 of 28293
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The Pulitzer board dissed fiction [link] It's been 35 years since it last declined to name a fiction winner.


DavidS - Apr 16, 2012 12:18:25 pm PDT #18458 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Pulitzer board dissed fiction [link].

Wasn't Franzen's book eligible? Or was that last year?