Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


megan walker - Mar 20, 2012 8:44:26 am PDT #18238 of 28286
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

And, clearly I need to re-read the second book. I read them so fast that I don't remember them well at all.


le nubian - Mar 20, 2012 9:53:15 am PDT #18239 of 28286
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yep. but I kind of don't want to re-read, if that makes any sense.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2012 9:54:57 am PDT #18240 of 28286
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh! I didn't highlight far enough. Sorry, megan.

I'm not sure why he's getting so much coverage for the movie. He's not referred to by name in the first book, and dies pretty early on.


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2012 10:01:14 am PDT #18241 of 28286
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

yep. but I kind of don't want to re-read, if that makes any sense.

Totally makes sense. I didn't re-read. I don't want to be comparing the movie to the book the entire time. I just want to watch the movie and know what I already know from the book.


megan walker - Mar 20, 2012 10:25:44 am PDT #18242 of 28286
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I wouldn't re-read, but I think readers will get way more out of the movie than non-readers, especially people who have read (and remembered better) the whole series. The movie is definitely informed by the later books.


Steph L. - Mar 20, 2012 10:46:41 am PDT #18243 of 28286
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Megan, even though I've read the books, I'm worried about how the violence is going to be depicted. I can read it just fine (well, not "fine," but I can handle it); words on paper are okay, but images onscreen? I can't handle seeing past a certain level of violence.

I'm not dumb enough to assume the movie has all the violence off-screen; it's the freaking Hunger Games. But did you think it was consistent with a PG-13 rating?


megan walker - Mar 20, 2012 11:16:07 am PDT #18244 of 28286
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Yeah, I sort of didn't think about it when reading and so I thought the cornucopia scene on screen was sort of brutal. That was the only thing I'd call gory. It's filmed in a frenetic fashion so you can't really focus on it and it's over quickly (most of the Careers have machete-blade type weapons for that part, so, maybe it was the implication more than the reality). But otherwise you see kids killing other kids. No gore in a neck snap, but PG-13? I don't know.

I happy to answer questions on any specific incidents from the books if you have doubts. I will say that the last death was mercifully cut short.


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2012 11:23:14 am PDT #18245 of 28286
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh man. I suppose it would be just too cruel to, like, let that one go on for minutes upon horrible minutes. Although I'm sure some directors would relish that. I AM LOOKING AT YOU HANEKE.


Steph L. - Mar 20, 2012 11:29:34 am PDT #18246 of 28286
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So -- and I'm sorry if this is a way-too-picky question -- when you say the last death was cut short (this is Cato, yes?), are we talking a few seconds, 30 seconds, a minute? I realize you were watching a movie rather than your pocketwatch, so any ballpark-y figure is fine.

Seeing that kind of stuff fucks me up.


megan walker - Mar 20, 2012 11:54:34 am PDT #18247 of 28286
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I figured that might be of interest. I think that was the hardest thing in the books for me. Basically, they have the stand off on top of the cornucopia, he falls, dogs descend on him (but you don't really see much) he pleads once or twice and Katniss shoots him (which you don't see--I mean, you see her shoot but that's it). He doesn't get dragged under, there's no real hesitation on Katniss's part. 30 seconds maybe? I'm bad at estimates like that. It seemed pretty immediate.