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Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


le nubian - Mar 10, 2012 1:59:13 pm PST #18166 of 28282
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have only read Incarnations of Immortality and that weird book that took place on another planet with silicone-based life forms. None of this pinged me in IoI, but I haven't read those books in 30 years.

I am right and truly disgusted now though.


-t - Mar 10, 2012 2:05:13 pm PST #18167 of 28282
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I did stop reading him because his stuff started to seem kind of creepy, but I had no idea it got that explicitly bad. Ick.


Ginger - Mar 10, 2012 2:10:35 pm PST #18168 of 28282
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I stopped reading him because I met him and he was severely creepy, and friends had stories of more creepiness. He seems to live in his own self-righteous world of creepy.


Typo Boy - Mar 10, 2012 2:28:06 pm PST #18169 of 28282
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I can give two examples of creepy from some of his popular work. Somewhere in the Xanth series, a kid agrees to help the evil magician kill a large number of people, because the kid's parents had promised he would do so. A fan wrote into Anthony to point out that the kid could simply choose not to help with the mass murder that not helping to kill large number of people would have been much more honorable than keeping a promise, especially since it was not the kid's promise. And Anthony blew his top. He told the fan that a Father's promise was binding on the son, and that for a son to break Father's promise was civil disobedience(!) and that only a son who was of age can rightfully commit civil disobedience. (Talk about supporting Patriarchy - this is literal support for Patriarchy). Plus the whole idea that promise breaking is worse than mass murder ... And to top it off he told the fan that the fan had no concept of what honor meant and that the character who was about to aid and abet mass murder was far more honorable than the fan would ever have any concept of being. And apparently Anthony was so proud of this exchange that he included it at the end of one of he Xanth books - presumably as a moral lesson for his readers.

Also in another book "Battle Circle" the viewpoint character and a definitely too-young girl were trapped with a Minotaur who did not want to do wrong, but had a genetically engineered compulsion to kill and eat virgins. So the viewpoint character had to relieve the underage character of her virginity to save her life.

I think I had bought both those books at once. After finishing them never touched another Piers Anthony book again. So , yeah, deeply creepy.


Ginger - Mar 10, 2012 2:31:58 pm PST #18170 of 28282
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He has gone at many a fan with paranoid rages that revealed an astonishingly bizarre worldview.


Amy - Mar 10, 2012 2:33:27 pm PST #18171 of 28282
Because books.

I just have to wonder what his editor thought. And why no one at the publisher thought he was possibly crossing a line.

Which is a really slippery slope, I know. But when you've got a whole theme going ...


Ginger - Mar 10, 2012 2:58:59 pm PST #18172 of 28282
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He has had many publishers. He's fond of suing them.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 3:00:21 pm PST #18173 of 28282
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does the poor guy get "censored" a lot? "First amendment rights" encroached on? Poor boo.


le nubian - Mar 10, 2012 4:20:25 pm PST #18174 of 28282
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

People people. Buffistas have been sitting on horrible Piers Anthony knowledge.

Thanks for airing it out now. I will never make the mistake of reading or buying any of his shit again.


Volans - Mar 11, 2012 5:14:15 am PDT #18175 of 28282
move out and draw fire

I read a couple Piers Anthony short stories when I was in high school, and pretty much hated them. For the sake of my friends in college, I really tried to read a couple Xanth books and Tarot, but everything seemed like something he'd banged out in a frenzied drugged post-fap haze.

However, I believe I was objecting to the misogyny and the general creepiness; I don't think I ever noted the pedophilia like that.