Harrow: You didn't have to wound that man. Mal: Yeah, I know, it was just funny.

'Shindig'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2012 7:08:28 pm PST #17817 of 28261
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vlad's not a particularly tough guy. I mean, he's a killer and physically very capable, but that's not the same thing. He's emotionally raw for most of the 13 books. He's deeply in love, and very sentimental about his friends, and is often wracked by guilt that seems disproportionate for an assassin by trade. The other books I've read the most of, the Khaavren ones, are really truly not macho at all--they balance the mockery of the flowery higher fantasy level without me ever feeling like it's derisive.

Yeah, Vlad's not macho to me at all, and he's pretty much Brust's primary protagonist.

One of the things I like about Brust's fiction is just that--that his main man is introspective, not overly hesitant about feeling or acting on their emotions, and sincere about them. What's "tough guy" macho about that?


Typo Boy - Feb 15, 2012 9:57:16 pm PST #17818 of 28261
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Umm I don't see conflict between sensitive and tough. And macho is almost always a front. It is an attitude maintained, and lived up to.


Toddson - Feb 16, 2012 3:58:40 am PST #17819 of 28261
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Crazy author? that's fine - it's the obnoxious/offensive that bothers me.

Oh - and in case you hadn't heard - Anne Rice has written a werewolf book. Looks to be the first of several, if not an entire series.


Strix - Feb 16, 2012 4:17:41 am PST #17820 of 28261
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I saw that. Doesn't her sister write some truly awful werewolf books, too?

...Are they werewolves for Christ?


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2012 5:47:27 am PST #17821 of 28261
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The phrase "tough guy" has common connotations above and beyond just being tough. Were you not using it that way?

And I contend that the characteristics you listed of Brust's, in combination with *your* term macho, do not accurately describe Vlad Taltos. That's the point of my post. He's tough, but he's not a "tough guy". He's not macho--he's not putting up that front.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2012 5:52:49 am PST #17822 of 28261
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh - and in case you hadn't heard - Anne Rice has written a werewolf book. Looks to be the first of several, if not an entire series.

I saw an interview on GMA yesterday, in which she was already casting the movie version with White Collar actors. Thankfully, Twilight has already conditioned me to put some werewolf stories in the "not worth the effort of reading" column.


Liese S. - Feb 16, 2012 6:10:33 am PST #17823 of 28261
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ooh, I should corner the market on Zombies for Christ, while I still can, huh?


Jesse - Feb 16, 2012 6:43:28 am PST #17824 of 28261
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesus is the only zombie Christians need, isn't he???


Amy - Feb 16, 2012 6:44:04 am PST #17825 of 28261
Because books.

You know, I think Liese has something there...


Liese S. - Feb 16, 2012 6:44:57 am PST #17826 of 28261
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Bwah! But one day Jesus is going to make us all zombies with him1!! Which means he's going to...bite us? Was that what all the stuff with communion was about?