Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jessica - Feb 14, 2012 9:47:43 am PST #17781 of 28261
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Write your own fanfiction and leave the author alone.

I feel that way about most of these, actually.

[eta: It's a list of "things that made some fans made that one time", which is a pretty huge leap away from "worst mistakes" authors must avoid. Avoid these 10 and your fans will get mad about some other list of things. Doesn't mean it's a bad book.]


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 9:53:49 am PST #17782 of 28261
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think many of them are good things to take into consideration when making sure your story is tight, things likely to pop up with this trope.

Showing the 2012-or-whatever version of the alternate timeline strikes me as entirely arbitrary. So what if you wonder? What does that have to do with the plot and the characters of every single alternate history story ever?


Ginger - Feb 14, 2012 10:07:27 am PST #17783 of 28261
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The only one of those that I think is absolutely true is "don't explain too much." The more a writer explains what happened, the more chance there is of my thinking, "That couldn't happen."

Also, calling Stirling's books alternate history doesn't gibe with my definition. In his books, something big and unlikely happens right around the present and he writes about what happens afterwards. I'd call that more post-apocalyptic than alternate. I am prejudiced against any author who changes the laws of physics altogether, though. My mind is willing to go along with one or two violations, like flying dragons, but not wholesale rewriting of physics and chemistry.


Jessica - Feb 14, 2012 10:17:12 am PST #17784 of 28261
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The only one of those that I think is absolutely true is "don't explain too much."

I agree but I don't think it's limited to historical AUs. Too much exposition can ruin almost any book.


meara - Feb 14, 2012 10:20:41 am PST #17785 of 28261

alling Stirling's books alternate history doesn't gibe with my definition. In his books, something big and unlikely happens right around the present and he writes about what happens afterwards.

Yeah, though for some of the later Island in the Sea of Time books, it is more alternate history (for the Dies the Fire series, NSM-very post-apocalypse, which is why I like them!)


Ginger - Feb 14, 2012 10:22:08 am PST #17786 of 28261
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Too much exposition can ruin almost any book.

Very true, but I think it's more glaring in sf. Say "warp drive" and I'm good. Try to come up with a complicated reason why FTL works, and you start to lose me.


Dana - Feb 14, 2012 4:02:57 pm PST #17787 of 28261
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere is on sale today for 2.99 at both Amazon and B&N.

Also, Twilight is the Kindle Deal of the Day for (I think) 2.99 as well.


Amy - Feb 14, 2012 4:08:49 pm PST #17788 of 28261
Because books.

Thanks, Dana -- I just bought it!


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 4:52:01 pm PST #17789 of 28261
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, man, put something I don't have on sale that's cool, will you?

I just finished Brust's Iorich, and the deleted scenes at the end--Jesus man, you're killing me. They're prefaced by

Various scenes had to be deleted for length or content. I thought some of you might be interested in them. They may appear when I release the Director's Cut of this book. Don't hold your breath. SKZB

He then goes on to include a few short scenes listed by chapter and scene (I need to go back and put them into context). They include: falling into a Tim Powers novel (which I can only conclude is very painful) and then into a John DeChancie, but not Louisa May Alcott like the protagonist wanted, then something about the writer's strike and a sequel, then well, just generally abusing the fourth wall and the dignity of his book and characters in various ways. I don't even know, man. He's on crack.

And I bought Tiassa while out for lunch (I *adore* doing that from the restaurant table), and he thanks Gaiman in the preface, so there you go. Not that I didn't believe Jilli, but it's right *there*. Tiassa looks delightful, because it's finally Devera centric (not a spoiler--it's back cover material). I don't know if that means we'll learn anything, because Brust can talk around stuff a lot, but hopefully.

Of course, it's the sort of book that totally rewards remembering not just the preceding 12, but also the Khaavren books. Which, evidently, he used online resources about his own work to accomplish, since he thanks three websites up front. See, Rowling? Good thing.


Typo Boy - Feb 14, 2012 5:06:05 pm PST #17790 of 28261
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Rowling as far a I know does not object to non-commercial websites. She objects to taking a website full of material from her book, putting it into another book, and selling that second book. Which is not to say she is 100% right, but not the same thing.