I'm very sorry if she tipped off anyone about your cunningly concealed herd of cows.

Simon ,'Safe'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Strega - May 18, 2011 5:51:48 pm PDT #14805 of 28293

I keep thinking of a fanfic I remember a ton of non-Buffista people raving about the general wonderfulness of, "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality,"

Hm. A couple of people have recommended that to me because I have zero interest in the actual books. And at least one of the recs is based on the fact that they find Rowling's story at its base to be morally... questionable. Like, at a C.S. Lewis level. I have not gotten very fair in it because well, it's still not my thing, but I don't know that putting the response down to logic versus heart is entirely fair.

I'm quite willing to believe it's ye olde question of whether its easier for you to handwave story in the service of character, or character in the service of story. Neither is superior, really. I'll cry my eyes out over things that don't make sense; it's just a matter of which kind of nonsense I can accept.


Consuela - May 18, 2011 6:29:43 pm PDT #14806 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I gotta say, I'm not all worked up about the question of how Hogwarts is funded: I just wondered.

Sheesh.


Amy - May 19, 2011 7:19:42 am PDT #14807 of 28293
Because books.

I love this.


Typo Boy - May 19, 2011 7:32:42 am PDT #14808 of 28293
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Huh. Potter is morally questionable? And Narnia isn't? I Would say Lewis is way more morally problematic. I would also say Lewis was by far the better writer. Yeah Rowling does more consistent world building. But Lewis has better prose. Although in summary it may not sound like it, encountered in the book his characters are much more convincing. And again though if you look at sparknote sumarries Rowlings world might seem more convincing, encountered in detail in actual books, Lewis's world building is damn convincing whereas I never was able to suspend disbelief for Potter. This sort of thing is very subjective, so maybe not a typical experience, but to me Rowling, though good, is not even in the same writing class as Lewis.

I'll take the moraltity and ethics she teaches though over Lewis, as long as one understands that it contains few to zero role models.


Strega - May 19, 2011 7:46:56 am PDT #14809 of 28293

Potter is morally questionable? And Narnia isn't?

No, I believe this person found them both to be questionable. That's what I meant by "at a C.S. Lewis level."


Consuela - May 19, 2011 7:47:20 am PDT #14810 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lewis's world building is damn convincing

I have one word for you: sewing machine. (Okay, two.) And why would a beaver require a sewing machine, anyway?


Laga - May 19, 2011 7:52:47 am PDT #14811 of 28293
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Because they don't make lederhosen in his size, duh!


meara - May 19, 2011 7:56:04 am PDT #14812 of 28293

And why would a beaver require a sewing machine, anyway?

Maybe he's an avid quilter. YOU DON"T KNOW!!

(OK, you'd know way more than me, since I last read the Narnia books around age 10. But STILL)


Steph L. - May 19, 2011 8:35:18 am PDT #14813 of 28293
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I never was able to suspend disbelief for Potter.

I have a question about this, because I'm apparently able to suspend my disbelief for damn near anything, with virtually no effort required on the creator.

Were you able to suspend your disbelief in the entire premise enough to pick up the books? But then the world-building wasn't good enough for you to keep suspending your disbelief?

(Like I said, I'm only asking because I pretty much suspend my disbelief for anything. I might not even have any disbelief to suspend.)


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2011 1:19:50 pm PDT #14814 of 28293
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

YA Dystopia Story Generator (inspired by some Kindle samples).

Reek: Lawnmowers have been banned and the government controls flirting.

Quiver: Entertainment has been banned and the government controls sofas.

Run: Patent leather shoes have been banned and the government controls patent leather shoes.

Ninja: Garlic has been banned and the government controls gravity.

Track: Midlife crises have been banned and the government controls scooters.