Zoe: I thought you wanted to spend more time off-ship this visit. Wash: Out there is seems like it's all fancy parties. I like our party better. The dress code is easier and I know all the steps.

'Shindig'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Amy - May 19, 2011 7:19:42 am PDT #14807 of 28291
Because books.

I love this.


Typo Boy - May 19, 2011 7:32:42 am PDT #14808 of 28291
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Huh. Potter is morally questionable? And Narnia isn't? I Would say Lewis is way more morally problematic. I would also say Lewis was by far the better writer. Yeah Rowling does more consistent world building. But Lewis has better prose. Although in summary it may not sound like it, encountered in the book his characters are much more convincing. And again though if you look at sparknote sumarries Rowlings world might seem more convincing, encountered in detail in actual books, Lewis's world building is damn convincing whereas I never was able to suspend disbelief for Potter. This sort of thing is very subjective, so maybe not a typical experience, but to me Rowling, though good, is not even in the same writing class as Lewis.

I'll take the moraltity and ethics she teaches though over Lewis, as long as one understands that it contains few to zero role models.


Strega - May 19, 2011 7:46:56 am PDT #14809 of 28291

Potter is morally questionable? And Narnia isn't?

No, I believe this person found them both to be questionable. That's what I meant by "at a C.S. Lewis level."


Consuela - May 19, 2011 7:47:20 am PDT #14810 of 28291
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lewis's world building is damn convincing

I have one word for you: sewing machine. (Okay, two.) And why would a beaver require a sewing machine, anyway?


Laga - May 19, 2011 7:52:47 am PDT #14811 of 28291
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Because they don't make lederhosen in his size, duh!


meara - May 19, 2011 7:56:04 am PDT #14812 of 28291

And why would a beaver require a sewing machine, anyway?

Maybe he's an avid quilter. YOU DON"T KNOW!!

(OK, you'd know way more than me, since I last read the Narnia books around age 10. But STILL)


Steph L. - May 19, 2011 8:35:18 am PDT #14813 of 28291
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I never was able to suspend disbelief for Potter.

I have a question about this, because I'm apparently able to suspend my disbelief for damn near anything, with virtually no effort required on the creator.

Were you able to suspend your disbelief in the entire premise enough to pick up the books? But then the world-building wasn't good enough for you to keep suspending your disbelief?

(Like I said, I'm only asking because I pretty much suspend my disbelief for anything. I might not even have any disbelief to suspend.)


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2011 1:19:50 pm PDT #14814 of 28291
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

YA Dystopia Story Generator (inspired by some Kindle samples).

Reek: Lawnmowers have been banned and the government controls flirting.

Quiver: Entertainment has been banned and the government controls sofas.

Run: Patent leather shoes have been banned and the government controls patent leather shoes.

Ninja: Garlic has been banned and the government controls gravity.

Track: Midlife crises have been banned and the government controls scooters.


Atropa - May 19, 2011 9:02:22 pm PDT #14815 of 28291
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Like I said, I'm only asking because I pretty much suspend my disbelief for anything. I might not even have any disbelief to suspend.)

Right there with you, Steph.


Typo Boy - May 20, 2011 1:22:16 am PDT #14816 of 28291
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Were you able to suspend your disbelief in the entire premise enough to pick up the books? But then the world-building wasn't good enough for you to keep suspending your disbelief?

I don't have to suspend my disbelief to enjoy something, at least not completely. I guess the difference (and I think this is what I'm getting at in the difference with Narnia) is that I get get caught up in Narnia. I don't think about whether the world seem real or not. The thing about the beavers with sewing machines is that I'm caught up enough not to turn that part of my brain on. Rowling, I notice shit. And I still enjoy it enough to go on. But I notice it enough that there is a bit of distance through most of the books. And I don't think I will ever reread Harry Potter. Whereas I will reread The Magician's Nephew, TLTWATW, The Silver Chair , and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader on occasion.

Rowling produces Brechtian Alienation in me, and I don't think that is what she is going for. Lewis may make me angry, but only after I put the book down.